@Thelegitpilot13 Okay, key words: certain situations. But the big question here is how often do you think those certain situations present themselves and circumstances allow for one to pull off a stunt like that and actually succeed.
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Here's some points I've laid down:
- The F-14 and MiG-29 were able to pull it off cause their engines are far apart from each other, which allows boosted asymmetric thrust to let the fighter turn.
- Tomcats aren't in active service anymore. And unless you have an Iranian with their busted up F-14 or Russian pilot with their Flanker or Fulcrum around who's insane enough to do that move in real combat and live to tell the tale, then you got yourself something to tell stories about at the bar.
- The situation. What if your adversary has their missile prox detonator set to have a wider triggering radius? What if they get far enough from you to turn back in and get a gun solution on you? What if they're not alone and someone else gets a bead on you while you pull the maneuver?
- The move was done in a simulated environment(DCS) and scripted to happen and succeed (the movie). Sim/Movie ≠ real life. You and I don't need to argue whether or not DCS is perfect.
- If you're alone, deep in hostile airspace, and you have minimal weapons along with the jet being an outdated, vintage fighter, you're better off just winging it to the closest friendly turf or close enough with whatever gas you have left.
- Combat performance of jets in DCS are not fully accurate to their real life versions. No military would just gladly submit the full specs and stats of their fighters for a game lest they want their enemies/potential enemies to cook up a recipe for their airpower downfall. Especially since that game can just be bought up by anyone who can play it.
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In conclusion: Realistically, Maverick could've just done a full forward negative G dive, or just used the stick in general to make a regular turn since he had enough airspeed during that scene to move. And DCS is indeed the best combat flight sim readily available for purchase, but it definitely isn't perfect. (which I know you never said, but from the way you put up your reply to me and CommentaryGuy, it looked and felt like you're saying the game is just real life in a screen)
It's largely for cosmetic purposes. If you're planning to build a classic gunpowder cannon, you'd pick the sphere round. Meanwhile the slug is more for current-era/conventional guns.
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Neither are more explosive or accurate than each other. It's just for looks.
It's gonna be difficult to implement these features since SP uses an older Unity setup. Jundroo's gonna have to make SP2 for these stuff cause new programming and codes make it easier, which I doubt they'll do at all since they're focusing more on SimpleRockets.
@PPLLAANNEE I mean, it's meant to simulate an arrow. It doesn't have to go too far to hit something. And you can always set the maxTargetingAngle to 100 or above so it would stay on target without having the skeleton always look. Anyone can just face and aim towards the enemy to make it look like how an actual skeleton shoots.
But it's your build anyway and who am I to change it. It works great as it is.
@kakaha I did say "to be begin with" in my reply. And this just goes to show how people are still hung up with the past and outright just deliberately forgetting what the symbol really is, which is just sad.
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One insane man changing the meaning of something good into bad and people today are keeping it bad is just ridiculous in my honest opinion.
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You saying that I won't change anything from submitting video game post makes it look like I'm trying to make a massive difference here. I know very well that it won't. I'm explaining to make the user I replied to understand what the swastika really is and not as how recent history portrays it. People will refuse to see the actual truth behind it but it never hurts you to tell.
@HololiveFan To be honest, the Swastika was never even a bad symbol to begin with. It's only recognized until modern time as it is because of some angry man with a ridiculous mustache using it for his fanatical dreams and ideology.
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The Swastika, for thousands of years until that famed painter from Austria stole it and used it as a symbol for his you know what, has been a symbol for good luck and well being. Long before NSDAP even existed. Look into it even. If you don't believe me
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If I were to submit a modded build and I want it to have some symbol of good luck other than the stereotypical four leaf clover or any other sort, I'd gladly take the swastika and slap it on. There's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't break the rules since I'm not pushing some agenda that's meant to stay down since everyone knows it's bad. And I'm using it as intended. Not in the way that almost the entire population of the world generally sees it according to recent history.
Would've been nice if the turret was mouse aimed like this Sherman but it's good enough as is. Might try to modify it with the turret control but highly likely I'll lose momentum before I could even start.
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On that note, have an updoot
A nationless fighting force that took on the responsibility of maintaining world balance and peace. Manpower of the entire TFM is comprised mostly of volunteers or transferees from different national militaries, while another portion of them consists of defectors from organizations and militaries that were fought by them over the years.
The TFM consists of 4 branches. The Global Ground Combat or Army, Global Naval Combat or Navy, Global Air Combat or Air Force, and the Orbital Surveillance and Scouting Branch or Space Force.
They also have special branches which are utilized for more specific missions and dispatches:
-The Strike Force Regiments are their special forces, which are sent behind enemy lines to conduct fast, precise raids to disrupt enemy logistics and cause crippling damage in hostile heartland.
-The Anomalous Paranormal and Scientific Events Division, shortened to A.P.S.E.D, are their more obscure force, only called upon to deal with unknown or unseen threat,s such as demonic activity, and disruption of natural energies that cause harmful or just nuisance anomalies in the world.
They possess no nuclear weapons, are entirely reliant on their strength and strategic capabilities to combat threats to the greater good of the globe. They participate largely in humanitarian missions as well, and are possibly the biggest contributor to causes that involve the betterment of those in a low state and quality of life.
The TFM is supported by NATO, EU, and the Arab League. It's also from them where they get their volunteers. Men and women who are willing to serve for the world and it's people.
@Sabertoothyt526 Guess you're not the sharpest tool in the shed from the looks of this reply alone. No point continuing this debate over a mistake you won't admit to doing.
My laptop committed self murk when I first loaded into the world with the mod active, but I'll figure out how to reduce the particle count somehow
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Updoot
Oooh new GIS scan map
Ok no-
+1Bom ber
+1Atlanta, but polis, and half submerged
+1Lockhead Martini
+1Okay now the photos showed up
+1No images on my end either. Where do you upload your images to?
+1Bookmarked for future modifying reference
+1Next up:
German German
Dr_Livesey_Strut.mp3
+1@brentisaac22 peetesd
+1So is the tail section shoved into it's ass or
+1@Idksus ok
+1This is where things get funky.
+1Keep it classic mil green with
SP-AOO
+1@Thelegitpilot13 Okay, key words: certain situations. But the big question here is how often do you think those certain situations present themselves and circumstances allow for one to pull off a stunt like that and actually succeed.
+1.
Here's some points I've laid down:
- The F-14 and MiG-29 were able to pull it off cause their engines are far apart from each other, which allows boosted asymmetric thrust to let the fighter turn.
- Tomcats aren't in active service anymore. And unless you have an Iranian with their busted up F-14 or Russian pilot with their Flanker or Fulcrum around who's insane enough to do that move in real combat and live to tell the tale, then you got yourself something to tell stories about at the bar.
- The situation. What if your adversary has their missile prox detonator set to have a wider triggering radius? What if they get far enough from you to turn back in and get a gun solution on you? What if they're not alone and someone else gets a bead on you while you pull the maneuver?
- The move was done in a simulated environment (DCS) and scripted to happen and succeed (the movie). Sim/Movie ≠ real life. You and I don't need to argue whether or not DCS is perfect.
- If you're alone, deep in hostile airspace, and you have minimal weapons along with the jet being an outdated, vintage fighter, you're better off just winging it to the closest friendly turf or close enough with whatever gas you have left.
- Combat performance of jets in DCS are not fully accurate to their real life versions. No military would just gladly submit the full specs and stats of their fighters for a game lest they want their enemies/potential enemies to cook up a recipe for their airpower downfall. Especially since that game can just be bought up by anyone who can play it.
.
In conclusion: Realistically, Maverick could've just done a full forward negative G dive, or just used the stick in general to make a regular turn since he had enough airspeed during that scene to move. And DCS is indeed the best combat flight sim readily available for purchase, but it definitely isn't perfect. (which I know you never said, but from the way you put up your reply to me and CommentaryGuy, it looked and felt like you're saying the game is just real life in a screen)
It's largely for cosmetic purposes. If you're planning to build a classic gunpowder cannon, you'd pick the sphere round. Meanwhile the slug is more for current-era/conventional guns.
+1.
Neither are more explosive or accurate than each other. It's just for looks.
It's gonna be difficult to implement these features since SP uses an older Unity setup. Jundroo's gonna have to make SP2 for these stuff cause new programming and codes make it easier, which I doubt they'll do at all since they're focusing more on SimpleRockets.
+1The Salt Mirage
+1Civilian Osprey
+1@PPLLAANNEE I mean, it's meant to simulate an arrow. It doesn't have to go too far to hit something. And you can always set the
+1maxTargetingAngle
to 100 or above so it would stay on target without having the skeleton always look. Anyone can just face and aim towards the enemy to make it look like how an actual skeleton shoots.But it's your build anyway and who am I to change it. It works great as it is.
@kakaha I did say "to be begin with" in my reply. And this just goes to show how people are still hung up with the past and outright just deliberately forgetting what the symbol really is, which is just sad.
+1.
One insane man changing the meaning of something good into bad and people today are keeping it bad is just ridiculous in my honest opinion.
.
You saying that I won't change anything from submitting video game post makes it look like I'm trying to make a massive difference here. I know very well that it won't. I'm explaining to make the user I replied to understand what the swastika really is and not as how recent history portrays it. People will refuse to see the actual truth behind it but it never hurts you to tell.
@HololiveFan To be honest, the Swastika was never even a bad symbol to begin with. It's only recognized until modern time as it is because of some angry man with a ridiculous mustache using it for his fanatical dreams and ideology.
+1.
The Swastika, for thousands of years until that famed painter from Austria stole it and used it as a symbol for his you know what, has been a symbol for good luck and well being. Long before NSDAP even existed. Look into it even. If you don't believe me
.
If I were to submit a modded build and I want it to have some symbol of good luck other than the stereotypical four leaf clover or any other sort, I'd gladly take the swastika and slap it on. There's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't break the rules since I'm not pushing some agenda that's meant to stay down since everyone knows it's bad. And I'm using it as intended. Not in the way that almost the entire population of the world generally sees it according to recent history.
KAR
+1F-16 Warring bird
F-16 Snek
+1Are those wingtip gas tanks or bombs?
+1@OkaNieba Ah, the weapons. That's why.
+1Why does it have an Ace Combat tag-
+1gost
+1put a jumpscare warning next time
+1@tarikGR It slipped my mind before submitting the jet but oh well
+1@GranRemodeler The better turnfighter's gonna get the first hit
+1@Axartar This is correct
+1I was wondering where it's props are then I scrolled to the next thumbnail and saw it was a pusher type. Great build.
+1Is this camera aimed or by VTOL/Trim?
+1Would've been nice if the turret was mouse aimed like this Sherman but it's good enough as is. Might try to modify it with the turret control but highly likely I'll lose momentum before I could even start.
+1.
On that note, have an updoot
I'd go nyoom in this everyday if it wasn't 700+ parts. Take an upvote instead
+1Edit: and a spotlight
Tactical Forces Military
A nationless fighting force that took on the responsibility of maintaining world balance and peace. Manpower of the entire TFM is comprised mostly of volunteers or transferees from different national militaries, while another portion of them consists of defectors from organizations and militaries that were fought by them over the years.
The TFM consists of 4 branches. The Global Ground Combat or Army, Global Naval Combat or Navy, Global Air Combat or Air Force, and the Orbital Surveillance and Scouting Branch or Space Force.
They also have special branches which are utilized for more specific missions and dispatches:
-The Strike Force Regiments are their special forces, which are sent behind enemy lines to conduct fast, precise raids to disrupt enemy logistics and cause crippling damage in hostile heartland.
-The Anomalous Paranormal and Scientific Events Division, shortened to A.P.S.E.D, are their more obscure force, only called upon to deal with unknown or unseen threat,s such as demonic activity, and disruption of natural energies that cause harmful or just nuisance anomalies in the world.
They possess no nuclear weapons, are entirely reliant on their strength and strategic capabilities to combat threats to the greater good of the globe. They participate largely in humanitarian missions as well, and are possibly the biggest contributor to causes that involve the betterment of those in a low state and quality of life.
The TFM is supported by NATO, EU, and the Arab League. It's also from them where they get their volunteers. Men and women who are willing to serve for the world and it's people.
+1@KaiLCU Yeah, I got the Nirai company from GOF2. Glad to see people still remember that gemstone of a game
+1Boing
+1Bugger, but with more tactics
+1@Sabertoothyt526 Guess you're not the sharpest tool in the shed from the looks of this reply alone. No point continuing this debate over a mistake you won't admit to doing.
+1@Sergio666
+1@MrOofington
@OkaNieba
@BlinIndustry
+1@AtlasMilitaryIndustries
@Griffon1
My laptop committed self murk when I first loaded into the world with the mod active, but I'll figure out how to reduce the particle count somehow
+1.
Updoot
You know why I'm here.
T
+1Kill My Self
+1Bismarck
Smile
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Sweet
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Sister
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Sadistic
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Surprise
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Service
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SUKHOI.
+1Prism Bugger
+1without the light splitting
I wish I could spotlight this but you don't really need it from me lmao
+1(And I can't in the first place cause lower points)
@OkaNieba I'm planning to do the 5 stars first before 4 star ones
+1@Inuyasha8215 Qiqi where
+1