@TophatAirkraft actually, it was NOT meant to be American... the P51 was originally designed in response to a requirement of the British Purchasing Commission. The US air force only started using it later in the war.
@asteroidbook345 the Kfir came a few years earlier, I believe... the "Pantera" conversion was done with the help of the guys who also worked on the Kfir.
Thanks all! I was also brewing another luftwaffe-thing, unfortunately not suitable for the challenge cuz it's a jet. I'll just finish up on that one now...
@SchadeAircaftCompany Thanks... you can certainly dogfight it of course, I just don't think it will last very long. I'm still curious how it will hold up in a dogfight, though.
@WarHawk95 ah well, your R530 only lacked some nuts & bolts (a WIP, as you say), but I was referring to Matra's real thing. Don't think they ever managed to hit much with those things.
@MrACEpilot Why not Iraqi..? It could have been almost anything else -it's hard to find a country that didn't have 21's at some point. But why would I want to blast some poor Polish or Czech pilot's Mig in a dogfight..? :D :D
@DaDerpachu123 you already have some pretty decent Mig's, it seems -don't think you need too many tips. Mine has more small details, but mich higher part count... that's always a trade-off.
@Brields95 nope, definitely the XP-72. The 69 looks quite a bit different, and (would have) had a Wright Tornado engine. The 69 was cancelled even before the 72...
@JediWolf yeah, I know -but that would be cheating terribly, wouldn't it? The real H22/V1 combo was dangerous on takeoff, so... besides, the CoL offset might be more of a problem than the mass. And anyway, once you get the hang of it, takeoff is not an issue -it's just not very elegant...
@Diloph Thanks, but that would be too much praise. Probably some guy at Bell Telephone Labs cooked it up. The solution is as straightforward as it is ugly. Sorry I couldn't slip this one into your challenge, BTW... I had no idea how to shave off 350 parts.
@VVMC well... they're not exactly my favorite planes. So that would have to be a big "maybe" -whenever I'm out of inspiration. Thanks for the suggestion though.
@Mustang51 Thanks, glad you like it. I'm not a huge fan of this build myself -I reckon I would need at least double the part count to get the canopy and fuselage just right, but as this is a "quickie" and intended to be (somewhat) mobile-friendly, I'm extremely happy with your judgement :)
@WolfSpark Thanks! Some models actually had the DL 131 electrically powered turret, also found on other German bombers. Makes a bit more sense than the earlier design, where the gunner had to choose between only firing to the aft or being exposed to the elements.
Design-wise it's an oreo with heavy guns. Hmm... strange.
@MAHADI Grazie...
@TophatAirkraft actually, it was NOT meant to be American... the P51 was originally designed in response to a requirement of the British Purchasing Commission. The US air force only started using it later in the war.
@asteroidbook345 the Kfir came a few years earlier, I believe... the "Pantera" conversion was done with the help of the guys who also worked on the Kfir.
Thaaanks!
@UFNNICF5TF it was a "zwilling"... does that count as one or two?
@Diloph perhaps there was some influence, who can say... Bell simply built the X-5 from Messerschmitt P1011 plans, so why not.
@xXRaindropXx -just tested, seems to work fine for me. No idea what the problem is then, I'm afraid...
Thanks all! I was also brewing another luftwaffe-thing, unfortunately not suitable for the challenge cuz it's a jet. I'll just finish up on that one now...
@Zippy6 well, no... that didn't work on the prototype I believe.
@Tessemi as far as I know they were free-floating, but probably locked at a certain (high) airspeed.
Art!!
@SchadeAircaftCompany Thanks... you can certainly dogfight it of course, I just don't think it will last very long. I'm still curious how it will hold up in a dogfight, though.
@hRmm :D :D nope, haven't a clue myself
@WarHawk95 ah well, your R530 only lacked some nuts & bolts (a WIP, as you say), but I was referring to Matra's real thing. Don't think they ever managed to hit much with those things.
I slapped a few of these on the "bis" version of my Mirage III, if u don't mind. Thanks!!!
@MrACEpilot Why not Iraqi..? It could have been almost anything else -it's hard to find a country that didn't have 21's at some point. But why would I want to blast some poor Polish or Czech pilot's Mig in a dogfight..? :D :D
@DaDerpachu123 you already have some pretty decent Mig's, it seems -don't think you need too many tips. Mine has more small details, but mich higher part count... that's always a trade-off.
@2084608295 meaning..???
Great build! Don't think Mad Max would want to be caught dead in a Mitsubishi though ;)
@VVMC Sorry, not my cup of tea. There's quite a few of those on SP already though -just pick one!
Great build! Isn't she a bit slow for a Gripen, though..?
@FatEgg already did
@Brields95
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraftid=419
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraftid=1726
@Brields95 nope, definitely the XP-72. The 69 looks quite a bit different, and (would have) had a Wright Tornado engine. The 69 was cancelled even before the 72...
@asteroidbook345 correction: ultrajug.
@Subnerdica first thing that pops up if u google "zerstörergeschwader" :D
@Subnerdica the idea for what..? :s
@JediWolf yeah, I know -but that would be cheating terribly, wouldn't it? The real H22/V1 combo was dangerous on takeoff, so... besides, the CoL offset might be more of a problem than the mass. And anyway, once you get the hang of it, takeoff is not an issue -it's just not very elegant...
@Shippy456 well, in this particular case, I keep re-using the same plane LOL... I only had to make the V1, and that's fairly simple.
@sheepsblood does that already include the 236 Pedro's..? ;)
@Shippy456 of course not, go right ahead
Niiice! You should do the description in Romansh, German, French and Italian though... ;) as a matter of neutrality...
@Subnerdica they're the little thingies sticking out of the canopy :D :D
Nice one! Love the bail-out option ;)
@Fartspoppop sorry 'bout that. Works smoothly on my not-so-new iPhone 6, anyway.
@Fartspoppop how so, "many"..?
@Fartspoppop Be my guest. Suggest u leave the wings and engines, though ;)
@Mustang51 haha... I think it's quite ugly. I had heard of a "radome" before, but this must be like... a radildo?
@Diloph Thanks, but that would be too much praise. Probably some guy at Bell Telephone Labs cooked it up. The solution is as straightforward as it is ugly. Sorry I couldn't slip this one into your challenge, BTW... I had no idea how to shave off 350 parts.
ehmm... what's the penalty for being over 600 parts?
@ND40X I have no idea. SP sometimes does that with wheels; suspension is "disabled", yet all of a sudden the wheels turn all bouncy.
@ND40X well... suspension on those wheels is off...
@Diloph yep
@VVMC well... they're not exactly my favorite planes. So that would have to be a big "maybe" -whenever I'm out of inspiration. Thanks for the suggestion though.
@Diloph I hope my entries for your Korea challenge will look every bit as nice ;)
@Mustang51 Thanks, glad you like it. I'm not a huge fan of this build myself -I reckon I would need at least double the part count to get the canopy and fuselage just right, but as this is a "quickie" and intended to be (somewhat) mobile-friendly, I'm extremely happy with your judgement :)
There's always room for more Jugs! Nice one...
@VVMC minus the elaborate nose art of course ;)
@WolfSpark Thanks! Some models actually had the DL 131 electrically powered turret, also found on other German bombers. Makes a bit more sense than the earlier design, where the gunner had to choose between only firing to the aft or being exposed to the elements.