@Supercraft888 Very well crafted. I can tell a lot of thought and effort went into the placement of every part. Flies great too. Responds how I'd expect it to without any fight at all. My only small gripe would be the stiffness of the landing gear. I like landing on struts that have at least a little give. But they never broke on me, so I guess they're fine. Overall, this is a fantastic piece of craftsmanship.
@AWESOMENESS360 Yeah! I'm always tweaking the thing. Finally decided to publish another version since I really can't think of much else to add. Good time for some good uploads too. I'm getting pretty close to Platinum!
@SomeFox Thank you! this plane is my magnum opus, so I work harder on it than any other.
@Mostly The MiG-15 was a very deadly plane during that era. Most piston fighters couldn't hold up against it. However, MiG-17s have been shot down by Skyraiders, so maybe pilot skill and advantage state is more important than capability gaps.
@Kaos Thanks. I was originally going to go for more impressive visuals for this one, but I got too frustrated working with tiny parts in tight spaces, and just settled for it how it is. Still happy how it turned out.
@Thebossrevolution101 If you don't aim for accuracy when making a replica, you're not doing the plane justice. Besides, having access to engineering drawings is just my prerogative as an actual certified aircraft mechanic. If I have the tools, I'll use them.
@Zardos Good going!
The trick is using the big difference in roll rates to keep Dart Drone in a climb while you maneuver the dropper. And of course, taking full advantage of the custom chase camera makes the landing much easier.
The only issue is keeping the dropper stopped. Unless you make it so the engines can be shut off, it'll just fly off when you throttle back up. Mainly why I added the little tidbit about setting the main engines to AG8.
Glad you liked it!
@Hooded The design was based on blueprints and official maintenance manuals. Having seen the wings up close in real life, as well as having personally operated all their parts really helped as well.
The only real inaccuracy here is the thrust reversers. The engines on the -25C were the JT8D-7B, which used the internal clamshell and cascade vane type reversers, not the older bucket type used here. It was more fun to build the buckets, and they look cooler, so that's why I installed them on this model.
Control surfaces.
Flaps are terminology for a specific type of control surface. Flaps change the area, and/or camber of the wing, augmenting lift.
Your standard control surfaces are ailerons are for roll, elevators are for pitch, and rudders are for yaw.
Of course, you can use the wing-part control surfaces to make flaps, but you're limited to what type you can make with them alone.
I wish there a part for various flap-types. Building slotted fowlers from scratch is pretty tough.
All the people who picked on me for being a plane nerd changed their tune when I started making money fixing planes.
Now it's all congratulations and respect.
You gotta show those people your hobby actually means something.
Way to start. Looks very good.
But it could stand to have better handling and engines modded in power instead of throttle range. Engines modded for throttle range take a very long to spool up and are less responsive as a result. Also they're noisy.
Also, adding a way to trim pitch goes a long way in improving ease of use.
Handling-wise, this plane's biggest weakness is low-speed flying. It takes far too long to rotate, and stalls at far too high of a speed. A closer look at balancing, wing loading, and control surface configuration would go a long way.
@Geniuswaffel That's owed to the capabilities of the R-2800 Double Wasp. It was a VERY hardy engine. Most air-cooled radials are. I'd be willing to bet you could knock out half the cylinders, and it would keep firing for as long as the oil lasts.
I've worked on a Wright R-3350 before. It's a similar engine. They're huge, and heavy, and built to survive.
@Geniuswaffel Good choice! The Thunderbolt was an excellent as a fighter-bomber thanks to its 2500lb bomb load, various rockets, and of course, its remarkable durability. It could get low and dirty very confidently.
Its performance in strafing runs was limited, however. It had only .50s to work with, and the harmonization limited its accurate targeting range to a 600 foot window. Though, that wide spread was ideal for peppering a lot of area at once. Deadly against lightly-armored convoys and troops.
The P-38 also excelled as a ground-attack fighter. Its acceleration, low-speed handling, and energy retention, along with its impressive roll rate made it ideal for strafing. The P-38L was even capable of being equipped with 10 HVARs. One of the greatest multirole fighters ever built.
@SpiritusRaptor It's really hard to get stuff like that to sync up. Maybe if we had a static part with propeller physics that could be solidly mounted.
I always did love rotaries. They are so gracefully-simple mechanically.
I'd love to get my tools in one. Here's a nice video.
Interestingly, most early rotary engines didn't have a traditional throttle. They were either on or off. A lot of engines also had a toggle that would control how many cylinders were firing, quickly alternating between full power, and a reduced speed. To land, they had to cut the fuel and/or ignition at the right time, and let the engine windmill. Those old planes were tricky to fly.
@SledDriver Oh, that sort of thing. I think I'd still keep the circle. Keeps the thumbnails consistent on my posts page, and provides a sense of scale since I know the diameter of the circle is around 56 feet or so. But since you suggested it, I might play around with some designer mods just to see if anything catches my eye.
@JohnnyBoythePilot Thanks! And lmao, you're blowing up my notifications now!
@AWESOMENESS360 Actually, it's only 900. I have 24,100 points.
@JohnnyBoythePilot No problem. Just taking a look at all your other creations.
@AWESOMENESS360 Yup!
@JohnnyBoythePilot It makes me happy to hear that!
@Supercraft888 Very well crafted. I can tell a lot of thought and effort went into the placement of every part. Flies great too. Responds how I'd expect it to without any fight at all. My only small gripe would be the stiffness of the landing gear. I like landing on struts that have at least a little give. But they never broke on me, so I guess they're fine. Overall, this is a fantastic piece of craftsmanship.
@JohnnyBoythePilot Sure thing! I like your style. Pretty unique!
@AWESOMENESS360 Yeah! I'm always tweaking the thing. Finally decided to publish another version since I really can't think of much else to add. Good time for some good uploads too. I'm getting pretty close to Platinum!
@SomeFox Thank you! this plane is my magnum opus, so I work harder on it than any other.
That's a nice Connie!
@RailfanEthan Thanks a bunch!
@Mostly The MiG-15 was a very deadly plane during that era. Most piston fighters couldn't hold up against it. However, MiG-17s have been shot down by Skyraiders, so maybe pilot skill and advantage state is more important than capability gaps.
@Mostly Thank you!
@paolops Thanks, friend!
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+5@Treadmill103 lol true. It's still far too chilly for April!
I had a similar idea years ago, but never got it to actually work.
Reminds me more of a P-61, but hey.
+1Very nice. You're a power user in the making.
More posts like this, and you'll be gold in no-time.
Absolutely stunning.
Very high quality build.
Among the best on this site.
@Thebossrevolution101 Thanks
@Kaos Thanks. I was originally going to go for more impressive visuals for this one, but I got too frustrated working with tiny parts in tight spaces, and just settled for it how it is. Still happy how it turned out.
+1@Maxwell1 @SomeFox @Treadmill103 Thanks!
@CRJ900Pilot This is a seriously good build. Don't know why I never noticed it.
@Thebossrevolution101 No biggie, bro.
@Thebossrevolution101 If you don't aim for accuracy when making a replica, you're not doing the plane justice. Besides, having access to engineering drawings is just my prerogative as an actual certified aircraft mechanic. If I have the tools, I'll use them.
@QingyuZhou Hey, thanks! I put quite a bit of effort into this one.
Hell yeah! I love 727s. The shape is a touch off in some places, but the detail is awesome. I especially love the cockpit!
@Megaplanesinc It's the "A" key in the default control scheme, I believe. It should say in the options.
Looks strikingly similar to a Mitsubishi F1M.
@Treadmill103 Glad you like it!
I'm genuinely impressed.
Seems to lose synchronization before the first loop ends though.
@Zardos Good going!
The trick is using the big difference in roll rates to keep Dart Drone in a climb while you maneuver the dropper. And of course, taking full advantage of the custom chase camera makes the landing much easier.
The only issue is keeping the dropper stopped. Unless you make it so the engines can be shut off, it'll just fly off when you throttle back up. Mainly why I added the little tidbit about setting the main engines to AG8.
Glad you liked it!
@Treadmill103 Thanks! I've been experimenting again lately.
@AWESOMENESS360 Thanks.
Almost everything I post, really.
I don't really care though.
As long as one person has enjoyed my creation, I feel happy inside.
The most objectively perfect creation.
+1@Hooded Thanks!
@Hooded The design was based on blueprints and official maintenance manuals. Having seen the wings up close in real life, as well as having personally operated all their parts really helped as well.
The only real inaccuracy here is the thrust reversers. The engines on the -25C were the JT8D-7B, which used the internal clamshell and cascade vane type reversers, not the older bucket type used here. It was more fun to build the buckets, and they look cooler, so that's why I installed them on this model.
Platinum-quality work.
+1Simply amazing.
@AWESOMENESS360 This isn't the newest version.
You can find the most recent version of this build here:
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/wu703D
Control surfaces.
Flaps are terminology for a specific type of control surface. Flaps change the area, and/or camber of the wing, augmenting lift.
Your standard control surfaces are ailerons are for roll, elevators are for pitch, and rudders are for yaw.
Of course, you can use the wing-part control surfaces to make flaps, but you're limited to what type you can make with them alone.
I wish there a part for various flap-types. Building slotted fowlers from scratch is pretty tough.
I always love that goofy-looking X-32.
F-35 won the JSF contract just by being better looking (among other more technical reasons).
All the people who picked on me for being a plane nerd changed their tune when I started making money fixing planes.
+12Now it's all congratulations and respect.
You gotta show those people your hobby actually means something.
2k here.
Way to start. Looks very good.
But it could stand to have better handling and engines modded in power instead of throttle range. Engines modded for throttle range take a very long to spool up and are less responsive as a result. Also they're noisy.
Also, adding a way to trim pitch goes a long way in improving ease of use.
Handling-wise, this plane's biggest weakness is low-speed flying. It takes far too long to rotate, and stalls at far too high of a speed. A closer look at balancing, wing loading, and control surface configuration would go a long way.
@Geniuswaffel That's owed to the capabilities of the R-2800 Double Wasp. It was a VERY hardy engine. Most air-cooled radials are. I'd be willing to bet you could knock out half the cylinders, and it would keep firing for as long as the oil lasts.
I've worked on a Wright R-3350 before. It's a similar engine. They're huge, and heavy, and built to survive.
@Geniuswaffel Good choice! The Thunderbolt was an excellent as a fighter-bomber thanks to its 2500lb bomb load, various rockets, and of course, its remarkable durability. It could get low and dirty very confidently.
Its performance in strafing runs was limited, however. It had only .50s to work with, and the harmonization limited its accurate targeting range to a 600 foot window. Though, that wide spread was ideal for peppering a lot of area at once. Deadly against lightly-armored convoys and troops.
The P-38 also excelled as a ground-attack fighter. Its acceleration, low-speed handling, and energy retention, along with its impressive roll rate made it ideal for strafing. The P-38L was even capable of being equipped with 10 HVARs. One of the greatest multirole fighters ever built.
@SpiritusRaptor It's really hard to get stuff like that to sync up. Maybe if we had a static part with propeller physics that could be solidly mounted.
I always did love rotaries. They are so gracefully-simple mechanically.
I'd love to get my tools in one.
Here's a nice video.
Interestingly, most early rotary engines didn't have a traditional throttle. They were either on or off. A lot of engines also had a toggle that would control how many cylinders were firing, quickly alternating between full power, and a reduced speed. To land, they had to cut the fuel and/or ignition at the right time, and let the engine windmill. Those old planes were tricky to fly.
@SledDriver Oh, that sort of thing. I think I'd still keep the circle. Keeps the thumbnails consistent on my posts page, and provides a sense of scale since I know the diameter of the circle is around 56 feet or so. But since you suggested it, I might play around with some designer mods just to see if anything catches my eye.
@SpiritusRaptor I get ya.
45 degree rotations are easier and more consistent to work with after all!
Easier to balance and mirror.