@jamesPLANESii ok, do you know what the two knows beneath the throttle, prop and mix are? I'm thinking one would be cowl flaps but Idk why there would be two
@jamesPLANESii @JohnnyBoythePilot yeah the fancy buttons are the cherry on top of this cockpit. But what I like most is either the radio or what I'm assuming is the fuel computer? That little installement in the top left of the panel with two blue lights and one red, it looks like my friends fuel computer... not sure why it says 203 • C tho lol
I'm assuming the Miro took inspiration from a Mooney? There's obvious differences like the retractable gear and more forward wing sweep, but I think the windsheild and the taper of the cockpit back to the tailplane is what is making me think this.
@rexzion I'm guessing that @PlaneFlightX just made a variable for fuel, and defined it as something like this clamp01((x - sum(Throttle))>0) where the constant x is how much fuel there is. If it = 1 there is fuel, if it = 0 there is none. Just multiply this by throttle or whatever you have in the engine then.
@OrderlyHippo yeah any car engine is. It's stunning, engineers spend a lot of time on compactness because it will relate directly to gas efficiency in a roadcar and top-end speed in a racecar. Plus less distance of tubing for coolant/oils(making it less susceptible to leaks) and therefore more reliable.
@rexzion yeah ik, I feel like theres also a delta plane that has a variant like this(maybe a mirage or a saab I think) and the extra electronics is sometimes jamming and electronic warfare
One of the few builds on this site I would actually say needs more power and more drag. It spins at slow speed, and full power and steering inputs, and that’s good. But it needs to be amplified. You can’t hit full power from a standstill in a real F1 car or you’re guaranteed to flip around. So it needs more HP and a similar top end speed. Hence, increase power and drag
@PapaKernels @Mage2IsTriggered by the way, we need a name.
I'm thinking "Formula SP Challenge" is the best for now, however that limits it to single-seat open-wheelers. Maybe a better name is containing "grand prix" in the name, like "SP Grand Prix Challenge" or just "Grand Prix Challenge"
@PapaKernels @Mage2IsTriggered ok, so Kernels you can hold the challenge. I can write the full desc, Mage if you would put together a thumbnail, that'd be epic. Or maybe some sort of logo I could put in the description banner would be good too.
@Mage2IsTriggered @PapaKernels ok yeah, good idea with the classes. Also, open wheeler can be a class so yeah, we can accomodate all of that. Now whose account should it be on? I'm fine to not host it, obviously the owner will gain the most due to upvotes and successor pts so i dont want to be a douche here. But I can write the desc or whatever you guys want
@Mage2IsTriggered @PapaKernels
Hey guys, any interest in a Simpleplanes car racing challenge? We would make it as the three of us, and here's my pitch:
There's a set of regulations:
- car size
- min / max weight
- max horsepower
- no XML on certain aspects such as wheel grip
- no "electric" motors
- specified downforce amounts / areas you can use wings
And it all has to be aestetcially pleasing, this will be a scoring category but handling and Gold Prix times are weighted quite heavily.
As for scoring, we can discuss a points system. But we each would also take our best run of Gold Prix in each entry and average the times, that would be a large points.
Let me know what you guys think...
@WaitBreadIsntAfruit ok yeah I see what you mean with that but the point still remains
Lol btw who's the user who recommended this to you? It seems like ur trying to keep them anonymous but maybe they could provide some insight into this.
@WaitBreadIsntAfruit @asteroidbook345 another thing to note with turbo aircraft is that they typically operate at very low throttle. I haven't looked into this plane, but I would assume they only take off with around 50% throttle. This is surely the case in all singe-engine turbos I have ever flown / flown in. I asked the instructor why we use such a low throttle and he said the upper percentiles are for emergency only.
All this to say, looks like the plane has around 1100 horsepower. However, the takeoff run is likely much longer than you could expect for this power, as the pilots probably wouldn't be running full throttle.
@Mage2IsTriggered especially the accesibility. A Formula Vee costs around $10,000 to buy and a few grand a year to maintain(including tires etc). If you are an adult in a full time job, you can totally afford that, even if it is a bit expensive. And that's what intrigues me the most about entry-class open wheel racing.
@WaitBreadIsntAfruit when I say "unit," basically its just for reference. Like in geometry on a problem with no units(such as feet), say you answer that the area of the circle is "500," but really the more correct answer is "500 square units"
Idk how to explain it. Its like a measure of distance but it could really be anything. Almost like a variable but not really.
Saying one thing is "1 unit in length" and another is "2 units in length" is like saying the second object is twice as long.
@CarrotSlicingCompanyCat that happens to me with a lot of videos incouding this one. Its been there for a while, and I reloaded three times and it was still there lol so I decided to just watch it.
Yeah the stopping looks ok but the acceleration is way too fast. I would say, decrease the drag.
If it has trouble slowing down(like in the air) after you decrease drag, then add an airbrake with -Throttle + 1 in the input so that it will slow down whenever you have less throttle on.
Yo, I read the first line and I was like, well, I saw a video of an Italian guy driving a "Formula Predator" and that comes just before F4 too. Started reading the rest then lol
I had no idea how many private open wheel racing leagues there are until recently, for example the Australian "Formula Vee," basically this but no downforce and less horsepower.
But yeah this is a really intriguing concept to me, especially people homebuilding their own cars. Like being an F1 driver, engineer, and mechanic all in one.
I think you can't make a blank line to prevent people from spamming empty comments. I know, it's pretty dumb since you could just put a period but I think that's the mentality.
Another way of thinking about it is that comments should ultimately be a single-paragraph statement, not a long, multi-page essay(even tho I abuse this on the daily lol)
@Korzalerke yeah I know. But there's a good reason why it isn't implemented, at least I think so. I'll put it in another comment so you can pin, if you'd like.
@realSavageMan oh yeah, forgot you were Chinese! I would really love to live a year in East Asia at some point in my life, like for college or something like that. Probably in Japan, from what I've learned I love their culture -- amazing food and very efficient and minimalistic yet also very thoughtful.
Also by the way, like half of my high school lives for rodeo, and owns a giant ranch, and the other half of us couldn't care less. But, we suck at football, I'll give you that much
@rexzion hmm I think you are
@OrderlyHippo ye lol bc it doesnt exist
+1@OrderlyHippo yeah coming soon
+1@ReinMcDeer yeah pringle surface is super cool shape.
@Phoebe imagine japanese cartoons
I actually am super interested in Japanese culture with what little knowledge I have of it thought
@IceCraftGaming hmmm I'll try that when I get an aerospace engineerinh job
+2@DeveloperKorzalerke lol
@X99STRIKER yep lol
@Flewey thansk
@IceCraftGaming this is a real thing lol I see several a day in the winter
+1@jamesPLANESii ok is there just no cowl flaps for this plane then
@jamesPLANESii ok, do you know what the two knows beneath the throttle, prop and mix are? I'm thinking one would be cowl flaps but Idk why there would be two
@jamesPLANESii @JohnnyBoythePilot yeah the fancy buttons are the cherry on top of this cockpit. But what I like most is either the radio or what I'm assuming is the fuel computer? That little installement in the top left of the panel with two blue lights and one red, it looks like my friends fuel computer... not sure why it says 203 • C tho lol
+1@PlaneFlightX @OrderlyHippo @BaconAircraft yep
+3@WolfHunter9111 eh - this is more of a track racer due to the lack of suspension and low ride height
+1I'm assuming the Miro took inspiration from a Mooney? There's obvious differences like the retractable gear and more forward wing sweep, but I think the windsheild and the taper of the cockpit back to the tailplane is what is making me think this.
@BaconAircraft wait I've heard of the memes and stuff around that but would they actually make a big deal over something like this?
+1@rexzion I'm guessing that @PlaneFlightX just made a variable for fuel, and defined it as something like this
clamp01((x - sum(Throttle))>0)where the constant x is how much fuel there is. If it = 1 there is fuel, if it = 0 there is none. Just multiply this by throttle or whatever you have in the engine then.@OrderlyHippo yeah any car engine is. It's stunning, engineers spend a lot of time on compactness because it will relate directly to gas efficiency in a roadcar and top-end speed in a racecar. Plus less distance of tubing for coolant/oils(making it less susceptible to leaks) and therefore more reliable.
+2@GrFrog thanks!
+1@rexzion very cool indeed
@rexzion lol
@rexzion yeah ik, I feel like theres also a delta plane that has a variant like this(maybe a mirage or a saab I think) and the extra electronics is sometimes jamming and electronic warfare
+1One of the few builds on this site I would actually say needs more power and more drag. It spins at slow speed, and full power and steering inputs, and that’s good. But it needs to be amplified. You can’t hit full power from a standstill in a real F1 car or you’re guaranteed to flip around. So it needs more HP and a similar top end speed. Hence, increase power and drag
+2@rexzion it reminds me of a su34 because of the smooth canopy neck thing
+1@rexzion the curvy canopy back it is so out of place like ik its not a normal su25 but it is a really weird variant
Ewwwww looks weird
@Mage2IsTriggered ok thats really good. Maybe we could even do a motrocycle class then.
@PapaKernels @Mage2IsTriggered by the way, we need a name.
I'm thinking "Formula SP Challenge" is the best for now, however that limits it to single-seat open-wheelers. Maybe a better name is containing "grand prix" in the name, like "SP Grand Prix Challenge" or just "Grand Prix Challenge"
@PapaKernels @Mage2IsTriggered ok, so Kernels you can hold the challenge. I can write the full desc, Mage if you would put together a thumbnail, that'd be epic. Or maybe some sort of logo I could put in the description banner would be good too.
@Mage2IsTriggered @PapaKernels ok yeah, good idea with the classes. Also, open wheeler can be a class so yeah, we can accomodate all of that. Now whose account should it be on? I'm fine to not host it, obviously the owner will gain the most due to upvotes and successor pts so i dont want to be a douche here. But I can write the desc or whatever you guys want
@WaitBreadIsntAfruit they don't exist. oof
@Mage2IsTriggered @PapaKernels
Hey guys, any interest in a Simpleplanes car racing challenge? We would make it as the three of us, and here's my pitch:
There's a set of regulations:
- car size
- min / max weight
- max horsepower
- no XML on certain aspects such as wheel grip
- no "electric" motors
- specified downforce amounts / areas you can use wings
And it all has to be aestetcially pleasing, this will be a scoring category but handling and Gold Prix times are weighted quite heavily.
As for scoring, we can discuss a points system. But we each would also take our best run of Gold Prix in each entry and average the times, that would be a large points.
Let me know what you guys think...
Haha didn't even see this lol
+1@WaitBreadIsntAfruit ok yeah I see what you mean with that but the point still remains
Lol btw who's the user who recommended this to you? It seems like ur trying to keep them anonymous but maybe they could provide some insight into this.
@WaitBreadIsntAfruit @asteroidbook345 another thing to note with turbo aircraft is that they typically operate at very low throttle. I haven't looked into this plane, but I would assume they only take off with around 50% throttle. This is surely the case in all singe-engine turbos I have ever flown / flown in. I asked the instructor why we use such a low throttle and he said the upper percentiles are for emergency only.
+1All this to say, looks like the plane has around 1100 horsepower. However, the takeoff run is likely much longer than you could expect for this power, as the pilots probably wouldn't be running full throttle.
@Mage2IsTriggered especially the accesibility. A Formula Vee costs around $10,000 to buy and a few grand a year to maintain(including tires etc). If you are an adult in a full time job, you can totally afford that, even if it is a bit expensive. And that's what intrigues me the most about entry-class open wheel racing.
+1@WaitBreadIsntAfruit
here I drew something lol
@WaitBreadIsntAfruit when I say "unit," basically its just for reference. Like in geometry on a problem with no units(such as feet), say you answer that the area of the circle is "500," but really the more correct answer is "500 square units"
Idk how to explain it. Its like a measure of distance but it could really be anything. Almost like a variable but not really.
Saying one thing is "1 unit in length" and another is "2 units in length" is like saying the second object is twice as long.
@CarrotSlicingCompanyCat that happens to me with a lot of videos incouding this one. Its been there for a while, and I reloaded three times and it was still there lol so I decided to just watch it.
Yeah the stopping looks ok but the acceleration is way too fast. I would say, decrease the drag.
If it has trouble slowing down(like in the air) after you decrease drag, then add an airbrake with
-Throttle + 1in the input so that it will slow down whenever you have less throttle on.@CarrotSlicingCompanyCat ha! Cool
Yo, I read the first line and I was like, well, I saw a video of an Italian guy driving a "Formula Predator" and that comes just before F4 too. Started reading the rest then lol
+1I had no idea how many private open wheel racing leagues there are until recently, for example the Australian "Formula Vee," basically this but no downforce and less horsepower.
But yeah this is a really intriguing concept to me, especially people homebuilding their own cars. Like being an F1 driver, engineer, and mechanic all in one.
@Korzalerke idk whatever, it doesnt rly bother me that much
@IceCraftGaming yeah, this is the video I saw
+1Lmao what is that then \/
I think you can't make a blank line to prevent people from spamming empty comments. I know, it's pretty dumb since you could just put a period but I think that's the mentality.
Another way of thinking about it is that comments should ultimately be a single-paragraph statement, not a long, multi-page essay(even tho I abuse this on the daily lol)
@Korzalerke yeah I know. But there's a good reason why it isn't implemented, at least I think so. I'll put it in another comment so you can pin, if you'd like.
@realSavageMan oh yeah, forgot you were Chinese! I would really love to live a year in East Asia at some point in my life, like for college or something like that. Probably in Japan, from what I've learned I love their culture -- amazing food and very efficient and minimalistic yet also very thoughtful.
Also by the way, like half of my high school lives for rodeo, and owns a giant ranch, and the other half of us couldn't care less. But, we suck at football, I'll give you that much