@Lameguy Unfortunately, no. It has over 4000 parts. I had plans to make a mobile friendly version but I lost motivitation to make it so it was cancelled
@natemomog there is no use, look at all the people who have been asking for an update for about a year now. MisterT probably turned off notifications and just doesn't give a damn about it. It would be great if he at least made a pinned to comment to explain why he won't update it (I'd even be okay with it if he said that he just doesn't want to bother with it or if there is some technical limitation, just say something, anything) but nope, not even that.
@TheOfficalMarylander the website already has a system in place that stops accounts below a specific point number (30 points iirc) from upvoting posts (to prevent upvote farming) so I guess they could tweak that system to get it the way that you described. Im definitely in favour of it.
@WritersCrusadersAirCo2 you don't have to repost it, just put some credit in the description, that sounds easier to me. The problem was never the fact that you used other people's work (I did it myself in the past too), just put their names in the description and it's all good
@WritersCrusadersAirCo2 well you didn't replace everything: the driver's vision port is still from LD's Tiger tank. Normally I'd have reported this to moderators already, but to show you I'm trying to help you with your "redemption", I'm simply notifying you about this so you can fix your mistake. But I'd like to remind you to our conversation we had in the comment section of your previous alt: if you truly want to redeem yourself in the eyes of the community, your track record must be spotless, otherwise, people will not believe you truly changed. (and that means not just not stealing, but also not doing any other rule violations either. Yes, I did notice you renamed your WCACWasteland account and then used it upvote yourself, that's not cool man). Yes, it's tough, but that's just how it is: losing trust is easy, getting it back is a thousand times harder. So do your best, good luck!
Posting teasers as builds is mostly problematic because in this case, it's violating the "misleading thumbnail" rule as you are just uploading a cockpit part but have a full plane on your thumbnail.
As others have already suggested here, posting teasers as forums or videos would be better.
@PlaneFlightX Awesome! hey, do you happen to have any other maps from mikoyanster archived? I'm specifically looking for tank test map 1 or 2 if you have those?
@Lwillswith2sentryguns Thanks! And sorry, I don't do auto-tags simply because I have the memory of a gold fish and I always forget about them, so the best I can suggest is follow me so you'll see my posts in your jetstream or comment T on my teaser posts whenever I post one about a car or plane
@Lwillswith2sentryguns For now I turned my attention back to one of my ship projects. You can follow the progress of projects on my Updates page where you can also find my planned projects (I do have a few more cars on my plans but my next release will most likely be a ship)
@planesandgodzilla1954 They deleted your post because if they were to allow just one post up, then that would justify hundreds of other posts which would turn into spam. So while your post alone wasn't spam, it likely would have create a wave of spam.
I once talked with ED about this and he said the reason for the rule is to avoid spam: just look at how many forum posts people made about 9/11, now imagine if the equal amount of build posts were made as well, some of them would probalby be just random low effort american flags and such. The goal is to avoid people flooding the website with low effort stuff on certain memorial days. (do note: this doesn't mean that high effort memorial posts are allowed. all memorial posts are forbidden because if one were to be allowed, then so would be all the others)
Additionally, disrespectful comments could also be a reason but I think the main goal is probably to avoid spam (if you check the "Regarding Posts" section of the rules, you'll see that the first two bullet points are aiming to stop spamming, and then the memorial post rule comes right after those so it can be assumed that this one was also made with spam in mind)
@VeryPlain Yea I just searched it up and found two companies by this name (a now defunct British car company and currently existing US IT company) but meh, I just needed a name to use for the car and I was inpsired by GMC for the name, I did not give any deeper thought to it. I did made it clear in the description that this is a fictional car, so hopefully no one will confuse it with the real company.
I bought FO on day one. it has some pretty good stuff (for example the fuselage edges are infinitely customizable which I really liked and I hope Jundroo will come up with something similar in SP2) but it takes different approaches in other aspects so I think the two games can perfectly coexist, no need to be afraid that the community will die or something (especially with SP2 on the horizon which will probably give the community a big wave of new players as well as make some old ones return).
woah, what's going on here?
@126 Both builds are police cars (therefore the black-white police paint scheme) and both of us happened to decide to go with "Jundroo City" (due to the name of that city mod, which in turn is named after the game's dev) as the ficitonal police department's location, I don't see what's special about it
@TTL Oh well, my bad for misunderstanding then, the wording just made it sound a bit like as if you are trying to make me look like a hypocrite (given that my most recent build is exactly 2k parts I thought you were referring to that). I apologize for the misunderstanding
@TTL And I never said that. My 2k+ part builds are definitely not low part, I never even claimed that, but the way they are built is still efficient because I used methods that create the same amount of detail but with fewer parts than it would otherwise take. If they were inefficient, they would be twice the part count
@126 I'm not planning to build too many of these as cars don't interest me that much, but this project was very refreshing after building so many ships (and it only took like a week to finish) so there will probably be a few more cars from time to time:)
I don't want to be rude but there is no "shadow ban", the planes you uploaded simply didn't catch the eye of users: the last two planes you uploaded had thumbnails which show them from the front, barely showing anything from the plane itself, which makes it hard for users to decide if it's worth checking out or not hence why they didnt click on your posts. Practice taking better screenshots (for example, if you take a screenshot of your plane in flight mode, and then load up that screenshot as a blueprint in the designer, then you can use that when uploading to make a more interesting thumbnail. But simply screenshotting the plane from a better angle in the designer can help a lot too). Your builds are also very beginner-level. There is nothing wrong with that, everyone starts from somewhere, but understand that there are dozens of similar planes uploaded everyday, so your posts will just get lost among them. Try to practice to build more unique, more interesting and more detailed planes and they will attract more people.
What?! Using labels is dying and is being hated?? damn, I still use it a ton, it's one of the most useful parts for partcount saving (I'm pretty sure some of my latest ships would be double the partcount if I had to manually build all the things that I solved with just a few labels).
The PEA trend was a bit annoying after a while, but it seems to be dying down now, I see fewer and fewer of them. The idea itself would have been great, to promote efficient part use, but it was just terribly misused by the majority of the players (respect to the exception) because most people werent actually building efficient builds under PEA, they just made low part, low detail stuff with no effort put into actually efficent part use. Most of them were just what we used to call "mobile-friendly" but now branded as PEA.
Another trend that was really annoying was when all those "add a part (or parts) and pass on" posts were blowing up. They flooded the website and were very spammy.
The Andrew label image posts were a bit annoying too. The first few were funny but it became boring and repetitve very quickly
@Bebondngao Upload it as unlisted then: when you are uploading an aircraft, there is a button that says "Public", tap on that and it will change to "Unlisted", that way it will only appear for you in your profile.
Also, if you are on the page of an aircraft that you like, click on the little triangle button on the side and there you will find a button named "Add to favorites", if you click on that, it will add it to the list of your favorite planes. You can access this list from your main profile page where there is a button named "Favorites"
@Jsoeidm2 Hello. After much thinking about it, I think the answer is sadly no. It has been in devlopment hell for like, forever (I did start working on it back then but didn't get too far with it) and it's unlikely that I'll pick it up again. I'm sorry to disappoint, it seems that mobile friendly builds are just not my thing...
FlatterGuy explained most of it, the only thing I'd add is that alt accounts also can't be used to evade bans (for example if your main account gets banned for some reason, then you aren't allowed to use your alt account either, otherwise if the mods find out, they will ban the alt as well and make the original ban time longer)
@Default4 Let'S take a look at some of Chii's original PEA builds, I think they represent what PEA should be about very well.
Take a look at this one:
- uses labels for the roundels
- uses sliced fuselages to make the structural beams on both sides on the wing (also for the landing gear as well)
- uses a single part with different edges to make that curved cover for the wheels
- uses a fuselage cone for the structure behind the pilot
- uses curved edge fuselages for the tail fins
Or look at this one:
- once again, it uses slicing at multiple places to save on parts (including the structural beams of the engines, or the windows on the side)
- uses a single stretched ball part for the engine pods
- curved edge fuselages on the tail fins to add just a little bit of extra detail
Both of these builds also represent the shape and look of the aircraft very well (I didn't match them up with blueprints but I'm willing to assume if I did, they'd match up perfectly. This is another thing I often see about recent PEA builds, that they are just eyeballed and not bothering to actually follow the aircraft's dimensions) and they use some creative solutions to add just a little bit more detail to the build, or to save on parts. They are "genius" in terms that they use very clever solutions to actually lower the part count as much as possible. Most recent PEA builds wouldn't do these. If you don't mind, I don't want to go through the recent brainrot PEAs to find one newer example of what I'm talking about, but I hope you get the idea.
The problem with PEA is that most players seem to misunderstand the meaning of it:
low part count =/= efficiency.
Most users seem to think that just building a simple plane with like 50 parts counts as efficiency and the mindlessly brand it as "PEA". Efficiency is when you come up with a solution that creates the same or almost the same result but with fewer parts than before. To give you a simple example: using a fuselage cone to make the plane's nose instead of using half a dozen fuselage segments for it, that's efficiency. Another example would be to let's say, using label images to make the roundel on the fuselage, instead of building it, that's efficiency. Or let's say I use fuselage slicing to build the railings on my ship on both sides at one, that's efficiency. I could list more examples but you get the idea. Now what many players are uploading as "PEA", are sometimes the exact opposite of this. I've seen some that are very wasteful with parts, use no creative solutions at all and are just simply low detail. That's not efficiency, that's just a low part plane. And that's the problem with PEA, that half the users are just using it as an excuse for low detail (and sometimes low effort) planes, acting like as if they did it in the name of efficiency. That being said, I'm not saying all PEA is like this, there are many PEA builds that are actually efficient and use genius solutions. What I'm saying is that a huge percentage of the PEA builds are what I described previously.
@Pakkoyan They target forums because the poster then cant delete them (which is why I wish that Jundroo allowed posters to delete comments on their forum posts as well, not just on airplane posts, so we could clean up all our own posts), so we have to wait for the moderators to delete them which gives them more time to spread their harmful stuff (as moderators are sometimes slow to react to reports because it might be at a time when all 5 of them are busy)
needless to say but I will write it out just in case: Do not, under and circumstance, click on any of these links as they can likely include a malware that can infect your device
@Lameguy Unfortunately, no. It has over 4000 parts. I had plans to make a mobile friendly version but I lost motivitation to make it so it was cancelled
@Lemoncat Feel free to do so, just make sure to give credit:)
@natemomog there is no use, look at all the people who have been asking for an update for about a year now. MisterT probably turned off notifications and just doesn't give a damn about it. It would be great if he at least made a pinned to comment to explain why he won't update it (I'd even be okay with it if he said that he just doesn't want to bother with it or if there is some technical limitation, just say something, anything) but nope, not even that.
+1When I saw this, for a moment I thought I accidentally clicked on the mods page instead of the planes page. Incredible work!
+2@TheOfficalMarylander the website already has a system in place that stops accounts below a specific point number (30 points iirc) from upvoting posts (to prevent upvote farming) so I guess they could tweak that system to get it the way that you described. Im definitely in favour of it.
+1@TheMouse funfact: the descriptions of aircrafts posts and mod posts are secret forum posts too
+5@WritersCrusadersAirCo2 you don't have to repost it, just put some credit in the description, that sounds easier to me. The problem was never the fact that you used other people's work (I did it myself in the past too), just put their names in the description and it's all good
+4@WritersCrusadersAirCo2 well you didn't replace everything: the driver's vision port is still from LD's Tiger tank. Normally I'd have reported this to moderators already, but to show you I'm trying to help you with your "redemption", I'm simply notifying you about this so you can fix your mistake. But I'd like to remind you to our conversation we had in the comment section of your previous alt: if you truly want to redeem yourself in the eyes of the community, your track record must be spotless, otherwise, people will not believe you truly changed. (and that means not just not stealing, but also not doing any other rule violations either. Yes, I did notice you renamed your WCACWasteland account and then used it upvote yourself, that's not cool man). Yes, it's tough, but that's just how it is: losing trust is easy, getting it back is a thousand times harder. So do your best, good luck!
+6credit is missing
Posting teasers as builds is mostly problematic because in this case, it's violating the "misleading thumbnail" rule as you are just uploading a cockpit part but have a full plane on your thumbnail.
+1As others have already suggested here, posting teasers as forums or videos would be better.
report and block them, also delete their comments so others wont click on their advertisements. You can't do much else unfortunately
@VeryPlain Why did you ask for a tag then?
@TakicraftCorporation Na azt én is nagyon várom:D
@PlaneFlightX Thank you!
+1@VeryPlain The car has already been published
@PlaneFlightX Awesome! hey, do you happen to have any other maps from mikoyanster archived? I'm specifically looking for tank test map 1 or 2 if you have those?
@Lwillswith2sentryguns Thanks! And sorry, I don't do auto-tags simply because I have the memory of a gold fish and I always forget about them, so the best I can suggest is follow me so you'll see my posts in your jetstream or comment T on my teaser posts whenever I post one about a car or plane
@Lwillswith2sentryguns For now I turned my attention back to one of my ship projects. You can follow the progress of projects on my Updates page where you can also find my planned projects (I do have a few more cars on my plans but my next release will most likely be a ship)
@planesandgodzilla1954 They deleted your post because if they were to allow just one post up, then that would justify hundreds of other posts which would turn into spam. So while your post alone wasn't spam, it likely would have create a wave of spam.
I once talked with ED about this and he said the reason for the rule is to avoid spam: just look at how many forum posts people made about 9/11, now imagine if the equal amount of build posts were made as well, some of them would probalby be just random low effort american flags and such. The goal is to avoid people flooding the website with low effort stuff on certain memorial days. (do note: this doesn't mean that high effort memorial posts are allowed. all memorial posts are forbidden because if one were to be allowed, then so would be all the others)
Additionally, disrespectful comments could also be a reason but I think the main goal is probably to avoid spam (if you check the "Regarding Posts" section of the rules, you'll see that the first two bullet points are aiming to stop spamming, and then the memorial post rule comes right after those so it can be assumed that this one was also made with spam in mind)
@TakicraftCorporation Jó látni hogy még aktív vagy :D
Requested tags:
+1@Marulk
@126
@TheNewSPplayer
@mikoyanster Could you fix the download link please?
@VeryPlain thanks!
@VeryPlain Yea I just searched it up and found two companies by this name (a now defunct British car company and currently existing US IT company) but meh, I just needed a name to use for the car and I was inpsired by GMC for the name, I did not give any deeper thought to it. I did made it clear in the description that this is a fictional car, so hopefully no one will confuse it with the real company.
I bought FO on day one. it has some pretty good stuff (for example the fuselage edges are infinitely customizable which I really liked and I hope Jundroo will come up with something similar in SP2) but it takes different approaches in other aspects so I think the two games can perfectly coexist, no need to be afraid that the community will die or something (especially with SP2 on the horizon which will probably give the community a big wave of new players as well as make some old ones return).
+5Requested tags:
@Toyotakijang1978
Requested tags:
@CaptainNoble
@L1nus
@TheNewSPplayer
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@126
@Marulk
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26
woah, what's going on here?
@126 Both builds are police cars (therefore the black-white police paint scheme) and both of us happened to decide to go with "Jundroo City" (due to the name of that city mod, which in turn is named after the game's dev) as the ficitonal police department's location, I don't see what's special about it
it's a B-17E, it crashed in 1943 after being hit during a mission.
I found an article on it: https://pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/41-9234.html
nice find
@TTL Thanks, Im glad you liked my builds:)
+1@TTL Oh well, my bad for misunderstanding then, the wording just made it sound a bit like as if you are trying to make me look like a hypocrite (given that my most recent build is exactly 2k parts I thought you were referring to that). I apologize for the misunderstanding
@TTL And I never said that. My 2k+ part builds are definitely not low part, I never even claimed that, but the way they are built is still efficient because I used methods that create the same amount of detail but with fewer parts than it would otherwise take. If they were inefficient, they would be twice the part count
@126 I'm not planning to build too many of these as cars don't interest me that much, but this project was very refreshing after building so many ships (and it only took like a week to finish) so there will probably be a few more cars from time to time:)
+1I don't want to be rude but there is no "shadow ban", the planes you uploaded simply didn't catch the eye of users: the last two planes you uploaded had thumbnails which show them from the front, barely showing anything from the plane itself, which makes it hard for users to decide if it's worth checking out or not hence why they didnt click on your posts. Practice taking better screenshots (for example, if you take a screenshot of your plane in flight mode, and then load up that screenshot as a blueprint in the designer, then you can use that when uploading to make a more interesting thumbnail. But simply screenshotting the plane from a better angle in the designer can help a lot too). Your builds are also very beginner-level. There is nothing wrong with that, everyone starts from somewhere, but understand that there are dozens of similar planes uploaded everyday, so your posts will just get lost among them. Try to practice to build more unique, more interesting and more detailed planes and they will attract more people.
What?! Using labels is dying and is being hated?? damn, I still use it a ton, it's one of the most useful parts for partcount saving (I'm pretty sure some of my latest ships would be double the partcount if I had to manually build all the things that I solved with just a few labels).
The PEA trend was a bit annoying after a while, but it seems to be dying down now, I see fewer and fewer of them. The idea itself would have been great, to promote efficient part use, but it was just terribly misused by the majority of the players (respect to the exception) because most people werent actually building efficient builds under PEA, they just made low part, low detail stuff with no effort put into actually efficent part use. Most of them were just what we used to call "mobile-friendly" but now branded as PEA.
Another trend that was really annoying was when all those "add a part (or parts) and pass on" posts were blowing up. They flooded the website and were very spammy.
The Andrew label image posts were a bit annoying too. The first few were funny but it became boring and repetitve very quickly
+2@DogThatMakesPlanes He didn't leave on his own, he was banned by the moderators for being underage
+2@Bebondngao Upload it as unlisted then: when you are uploading an aircraft, there is a button that says "Public", tap on that and it will change to "Unlisted", that way it will only appear for you in your profile.
Also, if you are on the page of an aircraft that you like, click on the little triangle button on the side and there you will find a button named "Add to favorites", if you click on that, it will add it to the list of your favorite planes. You can access this list from your main profile page where there is a button named "Favorites"
@QuitesUK Sorry, I don't take any requests at the moment, my backlog is already way too long
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+1I'm usually not into airliners... but dang, this livery made my jaw drop, take my updoot and spotlight o7
@Jsoeidm2 Hello. After much thinking about it, I think the answer is sadly no. It has been in devlopment hell for like, forever (I did start working on it back then but didn't get too far with it) and it's unlikely that I'll pick it up again. I'm sorry to disappoint, it seems that mobile friendly builds are just not my thing...
FlatterGuy explained most of it, the only thing I'd add is that alt accounts also can't be used to evade bans (for example if your main account gets banned for some reason, then you aren't allowed to use your alt account either, otherwise if the mods find out, they will ban the alt as well and make the original ban time longer)
+4@Default4 Let'S take a look at some of Chii's original PEA builds, I think they represent what PEA should be about very well.
Take a look at this one:
- uses labels for the roundels
- uses sliced fuselages to make the structural beams on both sides on the wing (also for the landing gear as well)
- uses a single part with different edges to make that curved cover for the wheels
- uses a fuselage cone for the structure behind the pilot
- uses curved edge fuselages for the tail fins
Or look at this one:
- once again, it uses slicing at multiple places to save on parts (including the structural beams of the engines, or the windows on the side)
- uses a single stretched ball part for the engine pods
- curved edge fuselages on the tail fins to add just a little bit of extra detail
Both of these builds also represent the shape and look of the aircraft very well (I didn't match them up with blueprints but I'm willing to assume if I did, they'd match up perfectly. This is another thing I often see about recent PEA builds, that they are just eyeballed and not bothering to actually follow the aircraft's dimensions) and they use some creative solutions to add just a little bit more detail to the build, or to save on parts. They are "genius" in terms that they use very clever solutions to actually lower the part count as much as possible. Most recent PEA builds wouldn't do these. If you don't mind, I don't want to go through the recent brainrot PEAs to find one newer example of what I'm talking about, but I hope you get the idea.
+3The problem with PEA is that most players seem to misunderstand the meaning of it:
low part count =/= efficiency.
Most users seem to think that just building a simple plane with like 50 parts counts as efficiency and the mindlessly brand it as "PEA". Efficiency is when you come up with a solution that creates the same or almost the same result but with fewer parts than before. To give you a simple example: using a fuselage cone to make the plane's nose instead of using half a dozen fuselage segments for it, that's efficiency. Another example would be to let's say, using label images to make the roundel on the fuselage, instead of building it, that's efficiency. Or let's say I use fuselage slicing to build the railings on my ship on both sides at one, that's efficiency. I could list more examples but you get the idea. Now what many players are uploading as "PEA", are sometimes the exact opposite of this. I've seen some that are very wasteful with parts, use no creative solutions at all and are just simply low detail. That's not efficiency, that's just a low part plane. And that's the problem with PEA, that half the users are just using it as an excuse for low detail (and sometimes low effort) planes, acting like as if they did it in the name of efficiency. That being said, I'm not saying all PEA is like this, there are many PEA builds that are actually efficient and use genius solutions. What I'm saying is that a huge percentage of the PEA builds are what I described previously.
+11Are you playing SP on Internet Explorer? mods were removed years ago
+3@Pakkoyan They target forums because the poster then cant delete them (which is why I wish that Jundroo allowed posters to delete comments on their forum posts as well, not just on airplane posts, so we could clean up all our own posts), so we have to wait for the moderators to delete them which gives them more time to spread their harmful stuff (as moderators are sometimes slow to react to reports because it might be at a time when all 5 of them are busy)
needless to say but I will write it out just in case: Do not, under and circumstance, click on any of these links as they can likely include a malware that can infect your device
+6@Th3Missil3 ayy, bottom gear reference?
+2@KPLBall That was already included as part of the dreadnought challenge