@shipster
It was the 1st under helicopter alone.
Hmm ... 2nd place is "traditional" dwarf jetpack.
Well, it was a AH series. If you see one you should probably run away. Unless it's one of your ally.
"AG3 to enable top speed"... I heard sounds of jet engines.
Well, we are all victims of simpleplanes's garbage physics engine. Aren't we, Chinook? (the new helicopter parts enabled you to make a easy-to-fly heli easily, but the chinook remains very challenging to fly)
@zap210
lol
about the controls, though, I can't really see any other option beside stacked rotators -- it's the source, the sticks themselves that have a slow transition from input 0 to 1.
you can use "activate 1" instead, but on mobile this will bring them so many pain.
so ... maybe the stacked rotators.
Also, some interesting things about bumpers:
A person had came up with the idea of modding the input as "sin(time * 2 * Pi)" which gives a repeated vibration (it was for a clock project)
and so maybe you can use that for the bumpers on the side. just saying.
the bumper can also be actuated with a "train-like" actuation thing but ....
I'm putting together more stuff for now (because I'm on winter vacation yay), so yeah. Wait for me ...
@Minecraftpoweer
How do you know I play Terraria?
This is amazing. One note however, is that "gift from above" is launched from his back and then bombards the terrain. More like high-angle howitzers. (indirect fire)
@RailfanEthan
To actually do it with a winch causes too many trouble (and, how, there is no human hand to help when things stuck)
By the way this actually took me a great deal of time. Was working with jet-powered centrifuge when I figured that things aren't right ...
@Skyler717
To actually use this just blow wind at it.
I would say that it works best if the speed is around 50 mph, although it can go as low as 35mph.
Definitely not surprising here. These stuff work completely different than what you would expect. Trust me.
@StavinairCaeruleum
to "lock in place" simply increase the power of the ..
vertically placed gyroscope.
drifty? well it's a test rig. you should thank me that Inhad give you a chassis in the first place
I understand that while this is not a 3D modeling software, I hope that the 3D models it generated is slightly more pleasing than what it currently offers. This is … duh.
Don't thank me.
For starters, this shows some decent experience with fuslage blocks
FUSELAGE blocks. Plus it looks good.
Try to nudge a gun into the air intake will probably be a good idea. :)
wingspan is a bit too long for the length but sure it flies good.
Since it's short the pitch response is a bit slow
lol
yes, I admit that your plane bodies, after using fuselage blocks, look good.
But don't you think your wings are a bit too thin?
Use your common sense here, man.
Build 1 continuous wing then hang engines down there using the pylons. That's how real world aircrafts have their engine hung.
@Bossman2
I tried a 4CH fixed wing( no ailerons, can't roll, lol) and my friend flew it into a basketball goal. (which, obviously, wrecked it)
I had flown a 6-CH helicopter (1 main rotor) and I tried to flash the firmware and bricked it
I had build successful large-frame quadcopter. (the smaller one use 9-inch propellers and the big one use like, 16-inch propellers)
the large one have the 650 frame and the small one 500 frame.
I wanted what's more like a 300 frame (with 7-inch 3 blade propellers) with most of the setup from my smaller quad
I mean, carrying around such big objects aren't easy.
The big one use 10 AH 6S, and the small one runs in 4 AH 3S (or 4S, configurable)
Good luck with your drones too
And no, I have been flying real helicopters (RC helicopters). The controls in Skmpleplanes just made it sound way too easy.
For most of the flights in my first trashy drone, it's either rough landing or crash-landing.
But that drone cost like $10 anyway, so yeah.
Second helicopter cost me $30. Did a reasonable tour around the classroom without dying
And other irrelevant stuff
@Bossman2
I have to say something about all of your helicopters.
To say (in a rude way), these are made out of sticks.
Look at the front view.
Jundroo give the Gator 2 as a good example of what a helicopter should look like, more or less.
It's good that you make flyavle machines on your own, but it's a little .... meh.
Make it look fat! This one's skinny enough that it appear to be starving for months
I believe the result will be slightly more pleasing
@Simpleplaner656
@Plane66373637
This thread is basically about alternative methods of driving planes forward.
A few well-known examples is the piston engine, the air brake engine, and the gun engine.
Less well-known are the infinite rotators and electric fans using gun engines.
@Visify make quite a lot of decent piston engines. I make a few gun-engines and a few e-fans using gun engine.
I maybe have 1 clockwork (rotator) plane.
@DPSAircraftManufacturer
A plane does not necessarily need 50% of the power to remain in flight.
For example, the Cessna can remain airborne with roughly 40% to 30% throttle (full mixture)
In some 3-engine configurations, one of the engine in the center may be stronger than the two others (like how the DC-30's tail engine is much longer)
I can be talking nonsense, so don't listen.
but I also come to know that a push-pull that flies around the globe used 46% power (210 horsepower out of 210 + 250) for the majority of the flight that took around 10 days.
@DPSAircraftManufacturer
Uh ...
if you want to.
You should actually reserve that spotlight for my complete vehicle (which is in my garage but I don't want to spoil it)
@Natedog120705
I'm saying "It's fine" because it is a good post
I say stuff in addition because there is other things beside this "fine" post
My bad if it sounds rude
@Natedog120705
It's fine, because this is only a model for ... the emerging OLED technologies (where the screen are essentially LED itself)
The classic LCD (liquid color display), however, is different.
First, they have a gigantic slab of ... LED at the back to illuminate the entire screen evenly. Then you have the inteesting (and complicated) liquid assembly, that are composed of tiny cells that reflect light.
Of course, the LCD is therefore heavier, but the smaller LED in the OLED also means that they have a shorter life span (by roughly half), but at around 20,000 hours they are still insanely long.
Basically the best place to educate anyone will be wikipedia. Even though each page are written by 1000 people, they have the knowledge of 100 professors which means you get what you need (to understand things) most of the time. Including good pictures.
Looks good. Can have smaller gears.
Generally, the rule of thumb is to have the shortest landing gear possible, so the plane will not be tipping anywhere when taxi (and also looks a bit nicer)
and yes, a little bit too complicated.
Good start, I guess. Try to have fun with the blocks first, then move onto the fuselage blocks.
Like, try to make some aircraft you like (such as the cessna), then try to make them in fuselage blocks.
Generally I will recommend new starters to go for a fixed wing first, but you can also go out and make a helicopter (learn the physics from gator 2, but don't copy it)
I will give you something to start. It's not easy to control but hopefully you can get it somewhere
Let me know when you made it (and please, upload it as unlisted so I can review it first)
@waveofthought
Man this is created before there is even platform support on Simpleplanes
Very good job. I believe that is the only "technology" it have to offer at the moment
@Technion
Looks really interesting. What if I am a mixed builder?
I mean, this just sound all too complicated.
I would rather be the kind of "free-wrench" that helps out here and there but have no affixed job or responsibility because I may, say, be away for like 6 month at a time
And also, this entire thing was mostly absent for quite some time, you know.
Once upon a time, there is a 4,200 parts build...
Ah, that land cruiser
and the system says, "there is no way you can download this and not explode your device. ago try something else".
Obviously the phones are much better now and can almost run this at double speed (double the calculation)
If it lags on double speed (but playable) you have a decent device
If it do not lag on double speed man you have heck of a device, Too fast.
If it lags and almost crashes then you have a old device (respect) in working.
One of the actual decent mechs with infinite rotor (but managing to not go back while legs are going back. waaaa?)
Yeah.
Group 1 throttle 100%, then the rotators will follow suit. Disable group 1 and set throttle tp 0. engine off. Open and close group 1 (update input on rotators). Legs go back. Disable group 1, throttle up.
@BACconcordepilot
lol
"Mostly White" do not point out that they are white people, the grammar don't make sense that way
Fine. I will change that to "Mostly colored white"
@Eligable
You mod the input of the control surface to say "VTOL"
If you can't mod, you can take these wings for free.
Don't thank me, cause I also take these from someone else ... :P
@asteroidbook345
Wow Air:
"It ceased operations on 28 March 2019."
lol.
Yeah, there are ones that are colored (as I pointed out, cathay pacific was one)
Yeah, no camos, but they can paint whatever color they wanted, like black on other civilian aircrafts (say, the sirius arrivée). But most choose white as the background color.
I'm saying this because a lot of aircrafts are not white, and some of them are not white because they think (white is not cool).
White IS cool.
@JamesBoA
Cars ...
That's not true. There are few green cars (and it), but you have plenty of red and blue colors. Yellow, while scarce, can also be found.
We have some golden (not true gold, lol). BRONZE (better) color paints here.
Um...
If you say that most estate cars(so not trucks or other stuff) have 5 bolts for their wheel it may be better. (small cars have less, big cars like trucks have more)
@Tangyuge
Very, very decent walking. (albeit clumsily)
Yes, definitely better than circular motors as this one is more realistic and allows infinite (truly infinite) walking
As well as reversing (while circular motors are good luck)
Can it jump? Even if it is a rocket-assisted jump it's better than nothing
@TheSarge @agnanSatrio
I think he is missing the boosters (acquired easily from Pupa)
The railgun should be longer, and feature a square end (with upper and lower rail separated)
The bulge on the cockpit (THINGY) was a tad too big, but it is a overall very good build.
@Tangyuge
Rajins are rather useless now ...
I own a Butch with 4 trebuchet (F2P get from free gold and very, very old forge and parts and crap)
As far as the modeling, I would say, it's well done.
On the walking side ... cough
It's just helplessly waving its limbs around.
None of its feet were lifted before moving, so the net force end up canceling each other, most of the time.
Decent (good) fortress mode.
@321321321123123123
Actually, I am not too sure what do you mean by "10x VTOL power"
So I build a test buggy to try it out.
I also tried other methods of propulsion, like using guns and rotators.
The guns create too many instantaneous torque that can rip the tracks, and the rotators ... well I didn't try that part.
While the 200 mph sounds unimpressive, the top speed without one is a meager 80 mph (which is nonsense too)
The huey (bears similar fuselages) on X-Plane 10, easily goes 120 KNOTS.
So to achieve this 200 mph they don't need such a powerful engine. They only need a little push.
@emprit
Remains as a experimental flying object.
I'm not saying the engine-in-wing thing is bad, but you have to think about why the propeller is there.
You should use these propellers for VTOL. I get it.
So the front two provide lift and the rear one ....
the rear one should provide pitch (nose up and down) control, which it didn't do well ...
Then you have the horizontal flying part. You have jet engines and they does the job fine.
But again, you are not controlling the pitch of your aircraft well ...
@Zyvx
I don't think you really needed infinite fuel, eh?
look at the empty weight parameter for your aircraft. lol
Eh ... something tell me that this is not the air wolf. But I didn't remember much either, so ... yeah.
@shipster
It was the 1st under helicopter alone.
Hmm ... 2nd place is "traditional" dwarf jetpack.
Well, it was a AH series. If you see one you should probably run away. Unless it's one of your ally.
"AG3 to enable top speed"... I heard sounds of jet engines.
Well, we are all victims of simpleplanes's garbage physics engine. Aren't we, Chinook? (the new helicopter parts enabled you to make a easy-to-fly heli easily, but the chinook remains very challenging to fly)
@zap210
lol
about the controls, though, I can't really see any other option beside stacked rotators -- it's the source, the sticks themselves that have a slow transition from input 0 to 1.
you can use "activate 1" instead, but on mobile this will bring them so many pain.
so ... maybe the stacked rotators.
Also, some interesting things about bumpers:
A person had came up with the idea of modding the input as "sin(time * 2 * Pi)" which gives a repeated vibration (it was for a clock project)
and so maybe you can use that for the bumpers on the side. just saying.
the bumper can also be actuated with a "train-like" actuation thing but ....
I'm putting together more stuff for now (because I'm on winter vacation yay), so yeah. Wait for me ...
+1@Minecraftpoweer
I meant this stuff
@Minecraftpoweer
+1How do you know I play Terraria?
This is amazing. One note however, is that "gift from above" is launched from his back and then bombards the terrain. More like high-angle howitzers. (indirect fire)
@RailfanEthan
To actually do it with a winch causes too many trouble (and, how, there is no human hand to help when things stuck)
By the way this actually took me a great deal of time. Was working with jet-powered centrifuge when I figured that things aren't right ...
@Skyler717
To actually use this just blow wind at it.
I would say that it works best if the speed is around 50 mph, although it can go as low as 35mph.
Definitely not surprising here. These stuff work completely different than what you would expect. Trust me.
@StavinairCaeruleum
to "lock in place" simply increase the power of the ..
vertically placed gyroscope.
drifty? well it's a test rig. you should thank me that Inhad give you a chassis in the first place
I understand that while this is not a 3D modeling software, I hope that the 3D models it generated is slightly more pleasing than what it currently offers. This is … duh.
Decent.
Make more customizations! You are off to a good start :)
Don't thank me.
For starters, this shows some decent experience with fuslage blocks
FUSELAGE blocks. Plus it looks good.
Try to nudge a gun into the air intake will probably be a good idea. :)
wingspan is a bit too long for the length but sure it flies good.
Since it's short the pitch response is a bit slow
lol
yes, I admit that your plane bodies, after using fuselage blocks, look good.
But don't you think your wings are a bit too thin?
Use your common sense here, man.
Build 1 continuous wing then hang engines down there using the pylons. That's how real world aircrafts have their engine hung.
To be honest, this one operates (and looks) way cooler than all of your other builds.
@Bossman2
is this to scale?
Like, length and height and wingspan and stuff?
I don't care too much about weight but that's a nice bonus ...
@Bossman2
I tried a 4CH fixed wing( no ailerons, can't roll, lol) and my friend flew it into a basketball goal. (which, obviously, wrecked it)
I had flown a 6-CH helicopter (1 main rotor) and I tried to flash the firmware and bricked it
I had build successful large-frame quadcopter. (the smaller one use 9-inch propellers and the big one use like, 16-inch propellers)
the large one have the 650 frame and the small one 500 frame.
I wanted what's more like a 300 frame (with 7-inch 3 blade propellers) with most of the setup from my smaller quad
I mean, carrying around such big objects aren't easy.
The big one use 10 AH 6S, and the small one runs in 4 AH 3S (or 4S, configurable)
Good luck with your drones too
@DPSAircraftManufacturer
+1lol, I had not uploaded it yet. I need to give it a paint job.
And no, I have been flying real helicopters (RC helicopters). The controls in Skmpleplanes just made it sound way too easy.
For most of the flights in my first trashy drone, it's either rough landing or crash-landing.
But that drone cost like $10 anyway, so yeah.
Second helicopter cost me $30. Did a reasonable tour around the classroom without dying
And other irrelevant stuff
Go have fun.
@Bossman2
I have to say something about all of your helicopters.
To say (in a rude way), these are made out of sticks.
Look at the front view.
Jundroo give the Gator 2 as a good example of what a helicopter should look like, more or less.
It's good that you make flyavle machines on your own, but it's a little .... meh.
Make it look fat! This one's skinny enough that it appear to be starving for months
I believe the result will be slightly more pleasing
@MTBCrafter
My German is horrible.
Very nice, you actually made it
1057 parts not the most efficient
Built it's Lego, so yeah. I can understand that.
@Simpleplaner656
@Plane66373637
This thread is basically about alternative methods of driving planes forward.
A few well-known examples is the piston engine, the air brake engine, and the gun engine.
Less well-known are the infinite rotators and electric fans using gun engines.
@Visify make quite a lot of decent piston engines. I make a few gun-engines and a few e-fans using gun engine.
I maybe have 1 clockwork (rotator) plane.
@DPSAircraftManufacturer
+1A plane does not necessarily need 50% of the power to remain in flight.
For example, the Cessna can remain airborne with roughly 40% to 30% throttle (full mixture)
In some 3-engine configurations, one of the engine in the center may be stronger than the two others (like how the DC-30's tail engine is much longer)
I can be talking nonsense, so don't listen.
but I also come to know that a push-pull that flies around the globe used 46% power (210 horsepower out of 210 + 250) for the majority of the flight that took around 10 days.
@DPSAircraftManufacturer
+1Uh ...
if you want to.
You should actually reserve that spotlight for my complete vehicle (which is in my garage but I don't want to spoil it)
@UnionPacific4014
+1You basically take my stuff and thrower away the best parts of it.
I leave no comment.
@Plane66373637
Sure. There are plenty of alternative propulsion methods. Speedbrake engine, uh ... infinite rotator engine ... gun engine ...
@Natedog120705
+1I'm saying "It's fine" because it is a good post
I say stuff in addition because there is other things beside this "fine" post
My bad if it sounds rude
@Natedog120705
It's fine, because this is only a model for ... the emerging OLED technologies (where the screen are essentially LED itself)
The classic LCD (liquid color display), however, is different.
First, they have a gigantic slab of ... LED at the back to illuminate the entire screen evenly. Then you have the inteesting (and complicated) liquid assembly, that are composed of tiny cells that reflect light.
Of course, the LCD is therefore heavier, but the smaller LED in the OLED also means that they have a shorter life span (by roughly half), but at around 20,000 hours they are still insanely long.
Basically the best place to educate anyone will be wikipedia. Even though each page are written by 1000 people, they have the knowledge of 100 professors which means you get what you need (to understand things) most of the time. Including good pictures.
@Monsterhunter
This is good.
Although, I might want to see builds that are less dependent on mods ...
You play world of Tanks?
@Monsterhunter
This is really good.
Looks good. Can have smaller gears.
Generally, the rule of thumb is to have the shortest landing gear possible, so the plane will not be tipping anywhere when taxi (and also looks a bit nicer)
and yes, a little bit too complicated.
Good start, I guess. Try to have fun with the blocks first, then move onto the fuselage blocks.
Like, try to make some aircraft you like (such as the cessna), then try to make them in fuselage blocks.
Generally I will recommend new starters to go for a fixed wing first, but you can also go out and make a helicopter (learn the physics from gator 2, but don't copy it)
I will give you something to start. It's not easy to control but hopefully you can get it somewhere
Let me know when you made it (and please, upload it as unlisted so I can review it first)
@waveofthought
Man this is created before there is even platform support on Simpleplanes
Very good job. I believe that is the only "technology" it have to offer at the moment
@Homersdonut
I had to thank you for the shape you made.
If I were to make this, it will be less accurate ...
@LegoFreak
Hmm it flew fine for me
Pulled off the high-G turn with it. Didn't seem to have any trouble.
Don't know what the others are talking about
@Technion
Looks really interesting. What if I am a mixed builder?
I mean, this just sound all too complicated.
I would rather be the kind of "free-wrench" that helps out here and there but have no affixed job or responsibility because I may, say, be away for like 6 month at a time
And also, this entire thing was mostly absent for quite some time, you know.
Once upon a time, there is a 4,200 parts build...
Ah, that land cruiser
and the system says, "there is no way you can download this and not explode your device. ago try something else".
Obviously the phones are much better now and can almost run this at double speed (double the calculation)
If it lags on double speed (but playable) you have a decent device
If it do not lag on double speed man you have heck of a device, Too fast.
If it lags and almost crashes then you have a old device (respect) in working.
@MethaManAircraft
I am really making this complicated, huh?
@BionicDragonYT
This is really good.
You remember that old wasp gun engine? well ... that don't work now.
One of the actual decent mechs with infinite rotor (but managing to not go back while legs are going back. waaaa?)
+1Yeah.
Group 1 throttle 100%, then the rotators will follow suit. Disable group 1 and set throttle tp 0. engine off. Open and close group 1 (update input on rotators). Legs go back. Disable group 1, throttle up.
@BACconcordepilot
lol
"Mostly White" do not point out that they are white people, the grammar don't make sense that way
Fine. I will change that to "Mostly colored white"
@Eligable
You mod the input of the control surface to say "VTOL"
If you can't mod, you can take these wings for free.
Don't thank me, cause I also take these from someone else ... :P
@asteroidbook345
Wow Air:
"It ceased operations on 28 March 2019."
lol.
Yeah, there are ones that are colored (as I pointed out, cathay pacific was one)
Yeah, no camos, but they can paint whatever color they wanted, like black on other civilian aircrafts (say, the sirius arrivée). But most choose white as the background color.
I'm saying this because a lot of aircrafts are not white, and some of them are not white because they think (white is not cool).
White IS cool.
@JamesBoA
Cars ...
That's not true. There are few green cars (and it), but you have plenty of red and blue colors. Yellow, while scarce, can also be found.
We have some golden (not true gold, lol). BRONZE (better) color paints here.
Um...
If you say that most estate cars(so not trucks or other stuff) have 5 bolts for their wheel it may be better. (small cars have less, big cars like trucks have more)
@TheFantasticTyphoon
+1All right. Thanks.
@Tangyuge
Very, very decent walking. (albeit clumsily)
Yes, definitely better than circular motors as this one is more realistic and allows infinite (truly infinite) walking
As well as reversing (while circular motors are good luck)
Can it jump? Even if it is a rocket-assisted jump it's better than nothing
@TheSarge @agnanSatrio
+1I think he is missing the boosters (acquired easily from Pupa)
The railgun should be longer, and feature a square end (with upper and lower rail separated)
The bulge on the cockpit (THINGY) was a tad too big, but it is a overall very good build.
@Zandgard
+1This is also known as the IS-8 Ball, and is featured in the 2016 April Fool's event hosted on World of Tanks.
As seen here
!image
@Tangyuge
Rajins are rather useless now ...
I own a Butch with 4 trebuchet (F2P get from free gold and very, very old forge and parts and crap)
As far as the modeling, I would say, it's well done.
On the walking side ... cough
It's just helplessly waving its limbs around.
None of its feet were lifted before moving, so the net force end up canceling each other, most of the time.
Decent (good) fortress mode.
@321321321123123123
Actually, I am not too sure what do you mean by "10x VTOL power"
So I build a test buggy to try it out.
I also tried other methods of propulsion, like using guns and rotators.
The guns create too many instantaneous torque that can rip the tracks, and the rotators ... well I didn't try that part.
While the 200 mph sounds unimpressive, the top speed without one is a meager 80 mph (which is nonsense too)
The huey (bears similar fuselages) on X-Plane 10, easily goes 120 KNOTS.
So to achieve this 200 mph they don't need such a powerful engine. They only need a little push.
@emprit
Remains as a experimental flying object.
I'm not saying the engine-in-wing thing is bad, but you have to think about why the propeller is there.
You should use these propellers for VTOL. I get it.
So the front two provide lift and the rear one ....
the rear one should provide pitch (nose up and down) control, which it didn't do well ...
Then you have the horizontal flying part. You have jet engines and they does the job fine.
But again, you are not controlling the pitch of your aircraft well ...
@Zyvx
why flip the yaw and roll?
This is basically nonsense
@Zyvx
I don't think you really needed infinite fuel, eh?
look at the empty weight parameter for your aircraft. lol
Eh ... something tell me that this is not the air wolf. But I didn't remember much either, so ... yeah.