@Default4 Well when I tried I was below 200 knots, more hovering around 150-140 knots, and I had to force the nose down during approach with full downward trim.
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It is fun to try and build realistic aircraft, I just wish I was better at it lol
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook If you saw it in a museum I'm assuming you went to Cali at some point because the ONLY remaining F-20 is there in a science center. Unless there's mockups and full scale replicas dotted in various museums or something
@ALRX Nice build. :)
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I tried playing one of the early builds of the game before release and my laptop was chugging harder than a steam engine to run it even on low graphics so...I may have to wait for a desktop or better laptop to give it a proper shot.
@ALRX PF just means upgraded interceptor. They took the original MiG-21F fighter and stuck a more powerful radar in it to be able to use radar-guided missiles for shooting down bombers. The PFM - the plane I assume the Project Wingman bird is based on - is in that same family of MiG-21's.
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Also I gotta love that this has the infamous MGP loadout that is the same as Ace Combat 7's MiG-21bis. It can't be a coincidence lol
@ChrisPy I figured it was a two-seat F-5. Everything I've heard says it was a couple F-5E's and F-5F's standing in, which makes sense as the planes would've been supplied by the Navy.
Is that mobile version of Strike Fighters: Modern Combat? Tried it out on phone and kinda playing with the idea of buying for computer (if that's possible, I can check TW's website again.)
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Nice gunpla collection :)
I mean we know a few P-51's were captured and evaluated by the Luftwaffe during the war, so this isn't that out there to see.
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Great looking build too with nice shaping (especially the upside down egg-like shape of the engine cowling) and detailing.
Weird, I've downloaded three times and for some reason these aren't showing up at all; I'm just taken to the main menu instead of the designer space with the builds inside.
EDIT: Nevermind I just have to download from within the game to make them appear.
@DarkMarble1 Ok, you're comparing a prototype to a production jet.
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The F/A-18 was a fleshed-out aircraft design that fixed most if not all the problems of the YF-17. Thousands of modifications to the basic airframe were made to create a reliable fighter, not just a carrier-capable one. There were several issues with the Cobra that were going to hold it back unless Northrop pulled an F-20 and privately funded continued development - which would bite them in the tail when the Tigershark cut into the B-2 Spirit program.
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The only advantage I see in the YF-17 is slightly higher top speed at altitude.
@Parehare Should have 3-400 rounds and then a 15 second delay if you fired all of them. I always set up my guns with long delays between "bursts" as the XML property calls it
@ChiChiWerx lol
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These are the same AIM-7F Sparrows from my rebuilt Tomcat and Eagle, so they should feel the same as on those two builds. Eventually I'll rebuild my other missiles too for future projects
"Weapons: 4x guns whose calibers can vary from 20mm to 30mm."
. Looks at F-86 and F-84 with 6x .50cal AN/M2 or M3 machine guns
. Looks at F-86D and F-89 with FFAR
. F3H Demon which could use AAM-N-6 Sparrow III/AIM-7D
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HMMMMMM...anyways maybe I'll enter this one. Sounds fun and I've been meaning to build more early jets anyways
@ChiChiWerx Thankies. As I mentioned in the description I used your F-20 as a guideline for the upper limits of handling (max gforce, roll rate, pitch rate mostly.) I also wanted to mimic a loadout that would've been tested during the program; it's also why I have the ol' sharkfin antennae atop the back. So this is more a hybrid of the three prototypes versus your what-if aggressor.
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Wait were Sparrows called slammers? Thought that was AMRAAM's?
Imagine a freak accident being called cringe.
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Aside from the unreliable engine and lack of range, the Tiger was a perfectly capable fighter for the 1950's. It just had to compete with the massively more capable Vought F-8 Crusader.
@ReinMcDeer Dunno what happened either. The first...two or three worked fine, but the last missiles would launch and then fail to guide. Super weird. Maybe I'll try replacing the missiles inside and copy the same stats and see where that goes.
Love this. Great shaping and stable flying. Roll seems a bit sluggish, even for as large a fighter as the Su-27. A couple of the R-27's didn't guide to target when I tried them, but I'll check those missiles and see what happened. I did perform a cobra (sort of) and it works well. Beautiful. :)
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Now I need to come out and build a definitive Su-27 for myself.
@Blue0Bull Hey, would it be possible to remove the auto credit from the W.I.Ps of this build? I didn't intend for them to be accessible by anyone else except myself and ChiChiWerx.
@Blue0Bull @Inuyasha8215@tsampoy Thanks I hate it lol~
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@DarkMarble1 I really wanna pick up the manga now that I've seen the 80's OVA and the 2000's anime. It's a neat series for war drama and aviation lovers, but all three also tell the basic story differently.
@SparkySparkyTheFiretruck It was a natural evolution. I wanted the space for my usual partial cockpit and realised I would have to hollow out the entire space so I just said screw it; let's go. Turned out alright for first attempt
@Dimkal Well, I play the game my way. Stock wings look fine enough. Yes it veers, but I'm almost 100% certain it's the nose wheel. Several other builds of mine with single nose wheels had tedency to start turning left (COUGHA-4ECOUGH). If you wanna fix it go ahead; lemme know what works.
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I don't really care for the rank. I'm here to have fun. I don't care for any expectations; I'm happy where I am and how I'm doing.
It's very cute size :3
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Tends to wobble with rapid pitch input. Slower rate on the rotators fixes that pretty nicely, but gentle pitch input (best with mouse) is fine. Definitely needs more fuel. I like this :)
@Tomcatbetterthanhornet I mean beyond basic flight testing, drop testing, and weapons testing we gotta do evaluation by the air force, mock combat trials, see all the weapons are working by taking it on a range...
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Lots-lots'o stuff needed to be done y'know?
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Oh and these aren't for sale. Domestic use only pal. Appreciate the sales pitch but I'm gud. Those prices seem WAY too low, you uh...you sure these aren't damaged goods? The FX-41 is at least several hundred million in cost...not including the support infrastructure.
@Default4 Well when I tried I was below 200 knots, more hovering around 150-140 knots, and I had to force the nose down during approach with full downward trim.
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It is fun to try and build realistic aircraft, I just wish I was better at it lol
Mmm Strike Witches :3
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One of these days I'll be part of a multiplayer vid.
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook Ah, okie
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook If you saw it in a museum I'm assuming you went to Cali at some point because the ONLY remaining F-20 is there in a science center. Unless there's mockups and full scale replicas dotted in various museums or something
Well 's a Fargo :)
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don't tag me or whatever, im just trying to make a joke
i can't stop laughing xD
@AerialAerialTheSnake It was meant to be dark. You can sum up the series with the cliché of, "war is hell."
Easily 1000x better than whatever excuse I put out for a Shin Kazama jet lol
way better than my sidewinder builds lel
Byoutiful XD
@ALRX Nice build. :)
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I tried playing one of the early builds of the game before release and my laptop was chugging harder than a steam engine to run it even on low graphics so...I may have to wait for a desktop or better laptop to give it a proper shot.
@ALRX PF just means upgraded interceptor. They took the original MiG-21F fighter and stuck a more powerful radar in it to be able to use radar-guided missiles for shooting down bombers. The PFM - the plane I assume the Project Wingman bird is based on - is in that same family of MiG-21's.
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Also I gotta love that this has the infamous MGP loadout that is the same as Ace Combat 7's MiG-21bis. It can't be a coincidence lol
@ChrisPy I figured it was a two-seat F-5. Everything I've heard says it was a couple F-5E's and F-5F's standing in, which makes sense as the planes would've been supplied by the Navy.
Is that mobile version of Strike Fighters: Modern Combat? Tried it out on phone and kinda playing with the idea of buying for computer (if that's possible, I can check TW's website again.)
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Nice gunpla collection :)
I mean we know a few P-51's were captured and evaluated by the Luftwaffe during the war, so this isn't that out there to see.
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Great looking build too with nice shaping (especially the upside down egg-like shape of the engine cowling) and detailing.
@Nerfaddict sorry friend
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this is the first time I've ever encountered that. I don't use the steam browser because my laptop is slow as hell with it.
Weird, I've downloaded three times and for some reason these aren't showing up at all; I'm just taken to the main menu instead of the designer space with the builds inside.
EDIT: Nevermind I just have to download from within the game to make them appear.
Man these sort of shenanigans looks so fun. :)
@DarkMarble1 Ok, you're comparing a prototype to a production jet.
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The F/A-18 was a fleshed-out aircraft design that fixed most if not all the problems of the YF-17. Thousands of modifications to the basic airframe were made to create a reliable fighter, not just a carrier-capable one. There were several issues with the Cobra that were going to hold it back unless Northrop pulled an F-20 and privately funded continued development - which would bite them in the tail when the Tigershark cut into the B-2 Spirit program.
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The only advantage I see in the YF-17 is slightly higher top speed at altitude.
@Parehare Should have 3-400 rounds and then a 15 second delay if you fired all of them. I always set up my guns with long delays between "bursts" as the XML property calls it
@DimitriIqbal91 My laptop equally rejoices
And that's how you suddenly wild part counts; that was a lot of work for the vertical tail. Kinda cool how you follow the panel line.
@ChiChiWerx lol
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These are the same AIM-7F Sparrows from my rebuilt Tomcat and Eagle, so they should feel the same as on those two builds. Eventually I'll rebuild my other missiles too for future projects
"Weapons: 4x guns whose calibers can vary from 20mm to 30mm."
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Looks at F-86 and F-84 with 6x .50cal AN/M2 or M3 machine guns
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Looks at F-86D and F-89 with FFAR
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F3H Demon which could use AAM-N-6 Sparrow III/AIM-7D
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HMMMMMM...anyways maybe I'll enter this one. Sounds fun and I've been meaning to build more early jets anyways
@ChiChiWerx Thankies. As I mentioned in the description I used your F-20 as a guideline for the upper limits of handling (max gforce, roll rate, pitch rate mostly.) I also wanted to mimic a loadout that would've been tested during the program; it's also why I have the ol' sharkfin antennae atop the back. So this is more a hybrid of the three prototypes versus your what-if aggressor.
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Wait were Sparrows called slammers? Thought that was AMRAAM's?
cries in real world 18% hit probability
Q u e e n
A strong boi
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@PointlessWhyshouldi N i c e
@DeathStalker627 I've watched the sales pitch video a couple times - the one with Chuck Yeager. I got some of my inspiration from that.
@SparkySparkyTheFiretruck Oh geez lol
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Must be an excellent looking Sidewinder build. I gotta try to update my custom weapons sometime.
Imagine a freak accident being called cringe.
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Aside from the unreliable engine and lack of range, the Tiger was a perfectly capable fighter for the 1950's. It just had to compete with the massively more capable Vought F-8 Crusader.
@RuvienRuvienTheCitizen ...Uhm, wow that was fast. ._.
@ReinMcDeer okie dokie :)
@ReinMcDeer Dunno what happened either. The first...two or three worked fine, but the last missiles would launch and then fail to guide. Super weird. Maybe I'll try replacing the missiles inside and copy the same stats and see where that goes.
Love this. Great shaping and stable flying. Roll seems a bit sluggish, even for as large a fighter as the Su-27. A couple of the R-27's didn't guide to target when I tried them, but I'll check those missiles and see what happened. I did perform a cobra (sort of) and it works well. Beautiful. :)
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Now I need to come out and build a definitive Su-27 for myself.
man I keep missing out on cool multiplayer meetups like this. -.- ah well
@SavageMan The Akutan Zero? That'd be pretty cool
It's immediately better than my MiG-15 and I haven't even tried this one lol~ :)
@Blue0Bull Thank you :)
@Blue0Bull Hey, would it be possible to remove the auto credit from the W.I.Ps of this build? I didn't intend for them to be accessible by anyone else except myself and ChiChiWerx.
@Blue0Bull @Inuyasha8215@tsampoy Thanks I hate it lol~
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@DarkMarble1 I really wanna pick up the manga now that I've seen the 80's OVA and the 2000's anime. It's a neat series for war drama and aviation lovers, but all three also tell the basic story differently.
@Tomcatbetterthanhornet I have so many ideas I wanna do lol~
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Maybe. :)
@SparkySparkyTheFiretruck It was a natural evolution. I wanted the space for my usual partial cockpit and realised I would have to hollow out the entire space so I just said screw it; let's go. Turned out alright for first attempt
@ALRX Well I'm just trying to follow what advice I was given. It's not as sprightly as my usual style but I intentionally wanted to do that.
@Dimkal Well, I play the game my way. Stock wings look fine enough. Yes it veers, but I'm almost 100% certain it's the nose wheel. Several other builds of mine with single nose wheels had tedency to start turning left (COUGHA-4ECOUGH). If you wanna fix it go ahead; lemme know what works.
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I don't really care for the rank. I'm here to have fun. I don't care for any expectations; I'm happy where I am and how I'm doing.
@ValtTeck Sure but maybe not that extreme lol :)
It's very cute size :3
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Tends to wobble with rapid pitch input. Slower rate on the rotators fixes that pretty nicely, but gentle pitch input (best with mouse) is fine. Definitely needs more fuel. I like this :)
@Tomcatbetterthanhornet I mean beyond basic flight testing, drop testing, and weapons testing we gotta do evaluation by the air force, mock combat trials, see all the weapons are working by taking it on a range...
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Lots-lots'o stuff needed to be done y'know?
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Oh and these aren't for sale. Domestic use only pal. Appreciate the sales pitch but I'm gud. Those prices seem WAY too low, you uh...you sure these aren't damaged goods? The FX-41 is at least several hundred million in cost...not including the support infrastructure.