Why would airships replace subs? I mean, they are still the most stealthy platform bar none and IIRC they'd still be better at commerce interdiction and nuclear deterrence...
@Greggory005 Spef most likely doesn't. His lores are less about actual plot and is more about what he have XML-ed to make that thing. @Treadmill103 on the other hand have written short stories about his own dieselpunk AU.
@Greggory005 Sorry for messing up your name🙇...
The internal workings of my brain seems to have a troubling resemblance to a paper shredder when it comes to names and faces... or just people in general...
Also, no, Spef and I are not talking you dying from a nuke - we know you can prolly walk that off. We're joking about his experience w/ Taylor's solution, which is commonly used to calculate the effect of nuclear bombs. So the joke is basically that whether he had been working on nukes and whether he might die from his own home-made nukes or not.
@spefyjerbf Your... experience? With the Taylor solution? We're still talking about SP... right? Just give me a shout when you're nowhere near the polar regions yet the sun's already up at midnight...
Jokes aside, it's just that my ballparking about the in-game damage of a cruise missile compared to a 500lb bomb, and IIRC according to that function twice the explosives (and probably twice the energy released) would result in a blast wave with the radius of 2^(1/5) times of the original, and 1.8 is around 2^(1/5) times of 1.6, so I just decided to go full "**** this, I'll just use this equation here", so I have literally zero idea if that's how it works or not, it's just a random guesstimation based on a random guesstimation...
@Griffon1Crosswind Yeah, like who in the world still uses semi-active radar homing missiles after we got active radar homing ones? The problem is, only a Sidewinder visually resembles that abomination of a Guardian...
@rexzion Well, that Greg Kurozaki guy came from a world where the air is saturated w/ uranium after a nuclear holocaust so perhaps his ideas on bombs are a bit... skewed. Glorious Atom, Praise On To Thee! P.S. Yes, that's a Fallout reference, and I probably should stop speaking in references.
@Greggory005 The point is that you said a 750lb bomb can't even be called a proper bomb for it's too small... when 500lb bombs are still the mainstay.
Also, please make sure they aren't still in your hands when they go off.
@Greggory005 A 750lb bomb shown in that picture is merely a firecracker to ya? I know that the Zakaer group have already nuked Earth in your setting, but IIRC unrestricted nuclear warfare is still bad, right?
@rexzion Well there isn't one in either families so you can't use vanilla weapons to make them without adding another detacher into the mix and thus screwing over your ability to use ejector racks... Anyways, thanks for the upvote!
@Greggory005 Right, one thing: ever heard of the Vol Noor? For some reason I'm unconsciously making the starfighter more and more similar to its design with every revision...
@Greggory005 You should know that I wanted to build pseudo-saucers (aka saucers w/ fins and cockpits and guns and whatnot) since like seven years ago. Glad to see another guy sharing the same fetish. P.S. Did I just call my fondness for such designs a fetish? P.P.S. Yes I did.
@Greggory005 "Now"?! The implications are rather... troublesome...
Anyways, for reasons beyond me, I'm a bit too enthusiastic on tutoring others on whatever I happen to know about...
@Greggory005 You know, it's a bit lonely up there, three thousand miles above the ground... Seriously, you're like the third guy on this entire site who's interested in building fully space-capable planes, so of course I'm a bit excited to talk about what to build!
@Greggory005 On a technicality, right in the middle of where the "bullets" strike. That's why on my drive units i have them arranged in groups of four, so that the center of the drive mount is also the COT of the thruster.
@Greggory005 Not really, the impactForce and roundsPerSecond is what determines the thrust of the engine, and a higher muzzleVelocity only made the engine more stable, so there's literally nothing to do w/ the gyros. Hell, Spef had three flyers w/ this drive before we even had gyros in the first place!
@Greggory005 If the impacForce of the back row miniguns is x, set the impactForce on the front row to -2 * x. The miniguns have a natural impactForce of 10, so set the front row to -20 if you didn't set up the back row.
To insert a link, type [text](link)
@Greggory005 Try to fly with the plane, notice that it shakes a lot regardless the airspeed? That vibration is what Spef and I call the RID, and it shouldn't be there.
Too many RIDs, it's a wonder that it can maintain atmospheric flight without shaking itself apart, let alone getting to orbital velocities. I had some discussions w/ @Spefyjerbf a few months ago about similar systems, and I hope it may be of some use to you.
Also, in case anyone's wondering, the grey cylindrical engines behind that saucer are the drive units. Feel free to take it apart to see how it works!
TL;DR: The underlying principle of such engines is that the higher the miniguns' muzzle velocity the more stable it is.
@EliteArsenals24 Nah, the ones I provided links of are simply the ones I marked as favorite, and I can sorta figure out a design by seeing it in action once, so...
@EliteArsenals24 Actually IIRC that cannon-missile set was first made by some @riko guy in an anti-ship missile launcher sorta build... Then someone else made a British V-bomber with the same set...
@spefyjerbf Also, I've just built my first orbital strike uplink based on both this principle and something I scrounged up from @AtlasAviation's build. So now I can freely blow up everything from the other side of the mountain range...
@NormalPioneer enter the list of xml commands for the missile then tell people how to attach those both custom missile body and commands
That's basically what I was trying to do in this post. Also, it's less XML and more exploiting a system bug...
@Yourcrush Something I just found out. Also, sorry for accidentally deleting my postimage archive so that I have to delete that post as well... Because that post would make zero sense without the pictures...
@Spefyjerbf @EliteArsenals24 @Sadboye12 Something I managed to find via reverse-engineering. Not sure if you guys already have entire stashes of such weapons in your arsenals, though...
@NormalPioneer That... abomination that looks like something spewed by someone completely void of reasoning and sanity, and then mangled by some machine-translator intentionally designed to reduce the sanity of any and all who read its finished translation to negative?
@Sadboye12 ...Again? Thanks anyways
+1Who the hell's Ryouko?
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom one is better?
Wait wait wait wait where the -bleep- are the horizontal stabilizers?
+1@GCPrototypes Well, of course, if merchant ships are now mostly airborne, submarines will most likely fall out of military use...
Why would airships replace subs? I mean, they are still the most stealthy platform bar none and IIRC they'd still be better at commerce interdiction and nuclear deterrence...
@Greggory005 Spef most likely doesn't. His lores are less about actual plot and is more about what he have XML-ed to make that thing. @Treadmill103 on the other hand have written short stories about his own dieselpunk AU.
@Greggory005 Sorry for messing up your name🙇...
The internal workings of my brain seems to have a troubling resemblance to a paper shredder when it comes to names and faces... or just people in general...
Also, no, Spef and I are not talking you dying from a nuke - we know you can prolly walk that off. We're joking about his experience w/ Taylor's solution, which is commonly used to calculate the effect of nuclear bombs. So the joke is basically that whether he had been working on nukes and whether he might die from his own home-made nukes or not.
@spefyjerbf Well it feels more reassuring knowing that my friend won't die to a great ball of nuclear fire anytime soon :3
+2@spefyjerbf Your... experience? With the Taylor solution? We're still talking about SP... right? Just give me a shout when you're nowhere near the polar regions yet the sun's already up at midnight...
+1Jokes aside, it's just that my ballparking about the in-game damage of a cruise missile compared to a 500lb bomb, and IIRC according to that function twice the explosives (and probably twice the energy released) would result in a blast wave with the radius of 2^(1/5) times of the original, and 1.8 is around 2^(1/5) times of 1.6, so I just decided to go full "**** this, I'll just use this equation here", so I have literally zero idea if that's how it works or not, it's just a random guesstimation based on a random guesstimation...
@Griffon1Crosswind Yeah, like who in the world still uses semi-active radar homing missiles after we got active radar homing ones? The problem is, only a Sidewinder visually resembles that abomination of a Guardian...
+1@Sovetzkyrossiya IIRC there isn't a FAB-1000, at least not one that resembles the Boom25...
@rexzion So basically Greg Kurozaki is another alias of that Greggory005 guy.
@rexzion This.
@rexzion Well, that Greg Kurozaki guy came from a world where the air is saturated w/ uranium after a nuclear holocaust so perhaps his ideas on bombs are a bit... skewed.
Glorious Atom, Praise On To Thee!
P.S. Yes, that's a Fallout reference, and I probably should stop speaking in references.
@Greggory005 Ouch. How many fingers do you still have? Five as in "two on one hand, three on the other"?
Yes, that's a StarCraft reference
@Greggory005 The point is that you said a 750lb bomb can't even be called a proper bomb for it's too small... when 500lb bombs are still the mainstay.
Also, please make sure they aren't still in your hands when they go off.
@Greggory005 A 750lb bomb shown in that picture is merely a firecracker to ya? I know that the Zakaer group have already nuked Earth in your setting, but IIRC unrestricted nuclear warfare is still bad, right?
@rexzion Well there isn't one in either families so you can't use vanilla weapons to make them without adding another detacher into the mix and thus screwing over your ability to use ejector racks... Anyways, thanks for the upvote!
+1@Greggory005 Right, one thing: ever heard of the Vol Noor? For some reason I'm unconsciously making the starfighter more and more similar to its design with every revision...
@Greggory005 You should know that I wanted to build pseudo-saucers (aka saucers w/ fins and cockpits and guns and whatnot) since like seven years ago. Glad to see another guy sharing the same fetish.
P.S. Did I just call my fondness for such designs a fetish?
P.P.S. Yes I did.
@Greggory005 "Now"?! The implications are rather... troublesome...
Anyways, for reasons beyond me, I'm a bit too enthusiastic on tutoring others on whatever I happen to know about...
@Greggory005 Sorry to be a grammar freak, but IIRC it's "you're" not "your"...
@Greggory005 Np bro!
@Greggory005 You know, it's a bit lonely up there, three thousand miles above the ground... Seriously, you're like the third guy on this entire site who's interested in building fully space-capable planes, so of course I'm a bit excited to talk about what to build!
@Greggory005 Yeah, gyros can be good especially when you actuality go to space...
@Greggory005 On a technicality, right in the middle of where the "bullets" strike. That's why on my drive units i have them arranged in groups of four, so that the center of the drive mount is also the COT of the thruster.
@Greggory005 Not really, the
impactForceandroundsPerSecondis what determines the thrust of the engine, and a highermuzzleVelocityonly made the engine more stable, so there's literally nothing to do w/ the gyros. Hell, Spef had three flyers w/ this drive before we even had gyros in the first place!@Greggory005 Also, this might be useful if you need to know more about formatting and the like.
@Greggory005 If the
impacForceof the back row miniguns isx, set theimpactForceon the front row to-2 * x. The miniguns have a naturalimpactForceof10, so set the front row to-20if you didn't set up the back row.To insert a link, type
[text](link)@Greggory005 Try to fly with the plane, notice that it shakes a lot regardless the airspeed? That vibration is what Spef and I call the RID, and it shouldn't be there.
@Greggory005 That's why I have a link there...
Too many RIDs, it's a wonder that it can maintain atmospheric flight without shaking itself apart, let alone getting to orbital velocities. I had some discussions w/ @Spefyjerbf a few months ago about similar systems, and I hope it may be of some use to you.
Also, in case anyone's wondering, the grey cylindrical engines behind that saucer are the drive units. Feel free to take it apart to see how it works!
TL;DR: The underlying principle of such engines is that the higher the miniguns' muzzle velocity the more stable it is.
Bombs away!!! Seriously, is this loadout designed to destroy a small city or what?
Inspired by this, right?
+1@Mic56qp Thanks again for that holiday greetings! And also, happy Thanksgiving!
May I ask... HOW? How does the mine work?
+1@EliteArsenals24 Also, the other bomber I talked about, turns out it's not a V-bomber afterall...
@EliteArsenals24 I deemed the previous builds to be of low quality or of outdated lore.
@EliteArsenals24 Nah, the ones I provided links of are simply the ones I marked as favorite, and I can sorta figure out a design by seeing it in action once, so...
@EliteArsenals24 Actually IIRC that cannon-missile set was first made by some @riko guy in an anti-ship missile launcher sorta build... Then someone else made a British V-bomber with the same set...
+1@spefyjerbf Also, I've just built my first orbital strike uplink based on both this principle and something I scrounged up from @AtlasAviation's build. So now I can freely blow up everything from the other side of the mountain range...
+1@Yourcrush Thanks, and sorry again...
+1@NormalPioneer
enter the list of xml commands for the missilethen tell people how to attach those both custom missile body and commandsThat's basically what I was trying to do in this post. Also, it's less XML and more exploiting a system bug...
@RamboJutter Hey thanks mate! Also, how's the drone?
@Yourcrush Something I just found out. Also, sorry for accidentally deleting my postimage archive so that I have to delete that post as well... Because that post would make zero sense without the pictures...
+2@NormalPioneer Well, let's hope this post makes slightly more sense than that one...
@Spefyjerbf @EliteArsenals24 @Sadboye12 Something I managed to find via reverse-engineering. Not sure if you guys already have entire stashes of such weapons in your arsenals, though...
@NormalPioneer That... abomination that looks like something spewed by someone completely void of reasoning and sanity, and then mangled by some machine-translator intentionally designed to reduce the sanity of any and all who read its finished translation to negative?
@rexrexThezion Well, try out the drone, take apart the six missiles underneath its wings, and you might get a better understanding of what I'm saying.