Smooth surfaces without unnecessary bumps and/or depressions, no flat surfaces pointing into the wind, generally teardrop/cigar-shaped outlines, and cover any non-smooth part with smooth fairings wherever possible.
Just remember the target drag value should be somewhere around 0.02 * [wing area] / 0.0010145 and you should be all set.
area rule?
This.
A transonic aircraft should have a near-constant cross-sectional area excluding the nose and the tail. Or, basically, make sure your wingtips are located where your fuselage is the thinnest, or conversely "tuck in" your fuselage near the wingtips.
For super/hypersonic aircraft, it's "make sure all your parts are tucked behind the shockwave cone created by your nose".
Look at, say, the F-15. Are the curves over the engines important?
As in...? If you meant the LERX then it's for maneuverability at high AOA.
Are flat surfaces on the sides of an aircraft bad?
I'd say.... not necessarily, but likely to be yes. Granted, I'm a mechie undergrad so my understanding about aerodynamics is still rather limited, but IIRC it's more about the part where flat surfaces don't tend to transition smoothly into and out of other shapes so more chance for influence drag.
@Graingy
Kek.
Also.... SP doesn't really double as wind tunnel simulators so.... Still, follow IRL design principles whenever possible, remember things like streamlining and area rule etc, I guess?
.... and go wild.
@Ku
@Graingy
Bonus point: a streamlined aircraft usually have drag coefficient of around 0.02 at subsonic speeds, which, when multiplied by the wing area of around 20m^2, gives a drag area of about 0.4m^2 for general aviation.... or about 400 in-game drag units.
The Coefficient of drag is indeed proportional to the wetted area of the plane.
Nope. The drag coefficient is, by definition, a unitless coefficient, which should NOT be proportional to an area. The drag area, however, is defined as the wetted/reference area times the drag coefficient, which, for an aircraft, is defined as the wing area instead of the frontal cross-section unlike it was for automobiles. (Source: drag coefficient, drag area, drag equation)
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So... read my calculation again: parasite drag should be proportional to the product of the drag coefficient and the reference area - because the drag coefficient is defined as the ratio between the parasitic drag force and one-half the product between the air density, the square of airspeed, and the reference/wing area.
@Ku
...... hmmmm.... Cd = (2 * Fd) / (rho * v^2 * A), which gives us F = Cd * A * 0.5 * rho * v^2, while the drag area is defined as Cd * A....
Your calculation gave us F=D*0.0010145*0.5*rho*v^2, so..... shouldn't the D here be proportional to the drag area instead?
@GalaxiesDontSlleep
.... no wonder why you tend to describe what would normally be considered "horror" and/or "tragedy" as "Lovecraftian".....
For me most of those are called somewhere between "Tuesday" and "it's more efficient to just [insert a realistic solution] for [insert a plot-specific problem], y'know....".
well, it doesn't mean all of it are X-rated though. You know what I mean
No? I mean, anime characters in and of itself shouldn't be the issue, and if someone actually posted explicit stuff here then of course they deserved whatever the mods have in for them, no?
consider accounts that haven't done anything children
As in......? Pretty sure age have nothing to do with their creativity - or lack thereof - in SP.... Plus, once again, I'm pretty sure the noseart is still PG-13.
@LowQualityRepublic
Less "children" and more "teenagers"; SP is PG-13 by definition.
Also, whatever Juan's doing is a lot tamer than historical WWII aircraft noseart.
Welp, let's just say the original "Mad Mommy Maddie" was struck by flak (pun intended) during a combat mission and the airframe was written off after limping back to base; her surviving crew members then decided to commemorate their old aircraft by naming the replacement "Mad AF Mommy Maddie"....
🎶 A shadow moves across the water in pursuit 🎵
🎶 It splits the waves, commands the sea and defies the wind 🎵
🎶 Instilling fear among its prey, feels nought for itself 🎵
🎶 Ahead the sea lies calm awaiting the storm 🎵
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🎶 Displace the water in its path 🎵
🎶 Reveal the cannons, align the guns, unleash their wrath! 🎵
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🎶 Unopposed under crimson skies 🎵
🎶 Immortalized, over time - their legend will rise 🎵
🎶 And their foes can't believe their eyes - believe their size - as they fall 🎵
🎶 And the dreadnoughts dread nothing at all! 🎵
Removed by Mod. Looks like they can't handle the heat...
I just hope it wasn't my comment that caused the mods' attention.... (in case anyone's wondering the historical nosearts I presented were decidedly NOT PG-13 because there's nothing really PG-13 in WWII).
.... That said, reporting someone else's comment without a good reason might also anger the mods... unless that guy was lying and his comment was taken down for something else, ofc.
His pals from the Jolly Wrenches might feel differently though... Granted, they're built and raised for war, regardless if they were Corsairs or Rhinos; Dusty, decidedly, is NOT.
... if I recall, going by Hisotenku spellcards, would the "Shanghai" variant be an early "proof of concept" model with a massive TLS pod, and the "Hourai" variant a newer model that carried a medium-sized TLS pod but better autonomous capabilities? Also, I'll just assume the "Holland" variant carries miniaturized microwave APS domes, and Alicebird is probably providing her drones energy via microwave transmission either way... (If Seeker Wire and Seeker Dolls skill/spell cards are of any indication all of her dolls/drones carry TLS pods but require external power, on land her dolls are probably controlled via wire guidance)
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... and if Chireiden taught me anything, the drones she lends to Marisa use chemical lasers instead of solid-state ones due to the lack of wireless transmission.
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...... and preemptive apologies for the word vomit.
@Solent19
First thing first: it's not my first time doing mass-upvoting some random strangers 'ere, nor would it be my last.
Second: please, for the love of all that's sacred and cherished please try to sketch how the plane would look like before you start the construction process - your construction style is good, but your aesthetics is really hit-and-miss.
... and preemptive apologies for nitpicking.
@LunarEclipseSP
I can say with confidence I was among those who reported the bot without clogging up the comment section. I know it might be funny to you, but please, keep it professional and don't force us to see even more spam just because you're personally bored, pretty please?
@Graingy
Smooth surfaces without unnecessary bumps and/or depressions, no flat surfaces pointing into the wind, generally teardrop/cigar-shaped outlines, and cover any non-smooth part with smooth fairings wherever possible.
+1@Graingy
Just remember the target drag value should be somewhere around
0.02 * [wing area] / 0.0010145and you should be all set.This.
A transonic aircraft should have a near-constant cross-sectional area excluding the nose and the tail. Or, basically, make sure your wingtips are located where your fuselage is the thinnest, or conversely "tuck in" your fuselage near the wingtips.
For super/hypersonic aircraft, it's "make sure all your parts are tucked behind the shockwave cone created by your nose".
As in...? If you meant the LERX then it's for maneuverability at high AOA.
I'd say.... not necessarily, but likely to be yes. Granted, I'm a mechie undergrad so my understanding about aerodynamics is still rather limited, but IIRC it's more about the part where flat surfaces don't tend to transition smoothly into and out of other shapes so more chance for influence drag.
+1@Graingy
Kek.
Also.... SP doesn't really double as wind tunnel simulators so.... Still, follow IRL design principles whenever possible, remember things like streamlining and area rule etc, I guess?
.... and go wild.
@Ku
@Graingy
Bonus point: a streamlined aircraft usually have drag coefficient of around 0.02 at subsonic speeds, which, when multiplied by the wing area of around 20m^2, gives a drag area of about 0.4m^2 for general aviation.... or about 400 in-game drag units.
@Ku
Nope. The drag coefficient is, by definition, a unitless coefficient, which should NOT be proportional to an area. The drag area, however, is defined as the wetted/reference area times the drag coefficient, which, for an aircraft, is defined as the wing area instead of the frontal cross-section unlike it was for automobiles.
(Source: drag coefficient, drag area, drag equation)
.
So... read my calculation again: parasite drag should be proportional to the product of the drag coefficient and the reference area - because the drag coefficient is defined as the ratio between the parasitic drag force and one-half the product between the air density, the square of airspeed, and the reference/wing area.
DISCIPLINE ENFORCED BY AIRCRAFT
+2@Ku
...... hmmmm....
Cd = (2 * Fd) / (rho * v^2 * A), which gives usF = Cd * A * 0.5 * rho * v^2, while the drag area is defined asCd * A....Your calculation gave us
F=D*0.0010145*0.5*rho*v^2, so..... shouldn't the D here be proportional to the drag area instead?links plz?
+2++DISCIPLINE ENFORCED BY TANK++
+1Quick question though: how does the depth charge work?
+1ZOGGIN' BOOTIFUL, BOSS!
+1@MajorFreischmidt Thanks!
Armored Core?
+1@GalaxiesDontSlleep
+1.... no wonder why you tend to describe what would normally be considered "horror" and/or "tragedy" as "Lovecraftian".....
For me most of those are called somewhere between "Tuesday" and "it's more efficient to just [insert a realistic solution] for [insert a plot-specific problem], y'know....".
WITNESSED ! ! !
+1Keep up the good work my pal! 🤗
@WritersCrusadersAirCo2
No? I mean, anime characters in and of itself shouldn't be the issue, and if someone actually posted explicit stuff here then of course they deserved whatever the mods have in for them, no?
@LowQualityRepublic
As in......? Pretty sure age have nothing to do with their creativity - or lack thereof - in SP.... Plus, once again, I'm pretty sure the noseart is still PG-13.
@WritersCrusadersAirCo2
as in.... ?
@USAMustang
+1.... how come are those X-rated? No full nudity, no intimate parts, no substance abuse nor strong language either.
@LowQualityRepublic
+3Less "children" and more "teenagers"; SP is PG-13 by definition.
Also, whatever Juan's doing is a lot tamer than historical WWII aircraft noseart.
NO STEP ON SNEK !
+1Welp, let's just say the original "Mad Mommy Maddie" was struck by flak (pun intended) during a combat mission and the airframe was written off after limping back to base; her surviving crew members then decided to commemorate their old aircraft by naming the replacement "Mad AF Mommy Maddie"....
+4🎶 A shadow moves across the water in pursuit 🎵
+2🎶 It splits the waves, commands the sea and defies the wind 🎵
🎶 Instilling fear among its prey, feels nought for itself 🎵
🎶 Ahead the sea lies calm awaiting the storm 🎵
.
🎶 Displace the water in its path 🎵
🎶 Reveal the cannons, align the guns, unleash their wrath! 🎵
.
🎶 Unopposed under crimson skies 🎵
🎶 Immortalized, over time - their legend will rise 🎵
🎶 And their foes can't believe their eyes - believe their size - as they fall 🎵
🎶 And the dreadnoughts dread nothing at all! 🎵
I'Z HERE FOIST ! ! WAAAAAAAGGGHHH ! ! !
j u g - o ' - j u i c e W H E R E
Ah, the greatest, handsomest mix between the P-51 and the Me-262. Great job!
+1.... thanks for the idea! Now let's see if I can turn my own tractor props into jets....
.... and here I thought something named "archer" would have rockets and/or missiles as standard loadout...
.... and here I thought it was because it revolutionized air combat and brought forth the jet age.....
+1@WritersCrusadersAirCo2
I just hope it wasn't my comment that caused the mods' attention.... (in case anyone's wondering the historical nosearts I presented were decidedly NOT PG-13 because there's nothing really PG-13 in WWII).
+1.... That said, reporting someone else's comment without a good reason might also anger the mods... unless that guy was lying and his comment was taken down for something else, ofc.
@Graingy Yeah. Bonus point for a turbojet is nought but a ramjet with a compressor powered by its own exhaust gasses.
+1@Karroc9522 ... and what are you guys intercepting again? Flying battleships?
How large, may I ask, is your plane?
His pals from the Jolly Wrenches might feel differently though... Granted, they're built and raised for war, regardless if they were Corsairs or Rhinos; Dusty, decidedly, is NOT.
+1Gratz on platz!
+2@Mosquitowithagun Oh. Apologies for not remembering your name then! Also.... here's my most recent Skylance, so... enjoy!
+1@Mosquitowithagun Yeah, thanks for all those upvotes and thanks again for pushing me to 10k! But... how did you even find me?
+1... if I recall, going by Hisotenku spellcards, would the "Shanghai" variant be an early "proof of concept" model with a massive TLS pod, and the "Hourai" variant a newer model that carried a medium-sized TLS pod but better autonomous capabilities? Also, I'll just assume the "Holland" variant carries miniaturized microwave APS domes, and Alicebird is probably providing her drones energy via microwave transmission either way... (If Seeker Wire and Seeker Dolls skill/spell cards are of any indication all of her dolls/drones carry TLS pods but require external power, on land her dolls are probably controlled via wire guidance)
+1.
..
... and if Chireiden taught me anything, the drones she lends to Marisa use chemical lasers instead of solid-state ones due to the lack of wireless transmission.
....
.....
...... and preemptive apologies for the word vomit.
@Solent19
+1First thing first: it's not my first time doing mass-upvoting some random strangers 'ere, nor would it be my last.
Second: please, for the love of all that's sacred and cherished please try to sketch how the plane would look like before you start the construction process - your construction style is good, but your aesthetics is really hit-and-miss.
... and preemptive apologies for nitpicking.
++ ATTENTION TO THE MAP ! ++
+1@LunarEclipseSP
+2I can say with confidence I was among those who reported the bot without clogging up the comment section. I know it might be funny to you, but please, keep it professional and don't force us to see even more spam just because you're personally bored, pretty please?
Goo' ta' see ya' 'gain, RJ!
Ah, the missing link between the IKEA shork and the Gura shork. Evolution always finds a way, nay?
+5@21817651
@Cestbon
[website](link)@ChaseRacliot
+1Thanks.@ChaseRacliot How did you get the red formatting?
+2Cursed fishbed
+1