I started with SimplePhysics and shortly thereafter moved on to SimpleRockets, which I had an absolute blast with (pun fully intended). I can't say for certain, but I'm fairly confident that I first got SimplePlanes within a week or two of the original mobile release, and then basically stuck with it ever since. Haven't ventured into SR2 yet, but I recall at least trying out Aero Effect.
Happy birthday Jundroo, and here's to 10 more years!
Dream car? Second-gen Pontiac Firebird, hands down. I'm more partial to the '70-'73 (and of course the '77-'78) in terms of aesthetics, but honestly I'd go for any model year.
Realistically? Something that won't break on me, has a CD player instead of a touchscreen, and isn't a coupe or small sedan. (I don't have anything against them, but I am a few inches taller than average... also, cargo space is nice.) Not sure what that'll be yet, though.
Fun fact: this is one of the preset options under the Report button on a post. You don't need to make a callout forum, just report the post and wait for the mods to take care of it.
@PigeonLB No they didn't. Jundroo has stated that the game will be released IN 2025. They still have 359 days to do so. We can wait. It will be ready when it is ready.
@Alternation @KevPlayzz Don't do that. Jundroo are good people and they deserve the money. Pirating indie games is just wrong on a bunch of different levels. Textbooks and stuff are another matter, but indie game devs put their hearts and souls into their games, so the least you can do is buy them legitimately.
Could be some other thing in the background, or the game just decides to crash because it does that occasionally. Save often so that you don't lose much progress.
It's called Funky Trees because that's the name of the programming language (yes, SimplePlanes has its own programming language, and it's Funky Trees). No idea why they picked it, but that's what it's called.
I love the story progression I got from just opening the forum:
"I stole a machinegun from someone who stole a machine gun from a mouse"
- GuardianAerospace|2 hours ago
"Monarchii threatened me"
- GuardianAerospace|1 hour ago
Celsius is a relative scale, so you can't really say any point is "twice as cold" (or "twice as hot" as any other point on the scale. 4 degrees Celsius isn't "half as hot" as 8 degrees, because Celsius "begins" (at 0 degrees) at an arbitrary point and can go in both directions, meaning that "zero" does not indicate a true zero value. You could say that 4 degrees is half as much above zero as 8 degrees, but it is not half as hot.
As a side note, this is why Kelvin exists. Kelvin is an absolute scale, meaning that it starts at zero and only progresses in one direction. If we were talking in Kelvin, 4 degrees would be half as hot as 8 degrees, because Kelvin has a defined absolute minimum value (it cannot go below zero), meaning that each step is a known and consistent distance from that actual zero point.
Hmm, let's see. We've got:
F-101/F-4 hybrid but Navy
Someone found the MiG spare parts bin and some USN decals
T-45 Goshawk except it was hit with a rubber mallet
Literally a SH-60 Seahawk with big intakes and stairs for some reason
F-14 but someone forgot half the pieces
Val/Dauntless hybrid
F-22 with Su-57 nose
F-102 if it was a NASA project from the mid-2000s
Who Gave The Russians My F-106
That plane from those "most incredible planes ever built" video thumbnails
F-104 with F-101 intakes
B-52 if it was designed to do the job of the B-1B
Upscaled twin-engine DH Vampire
F-35/F-22 hybrid
GA kitbash taildragger (with a really nice paint job, too)
Jet-powered T-28
Literally a C-17
Taildragger Cessna
P-51D with a P-47D rear fuselage shape and many other problems
P-3 fuselage with six under-wing podded turboprops... that's a vibe
B-57 if it was prop-powered and built by Douglas instead of Martin
Avro Vulcan but Borzoi
I believe the general idea is that Spark had made a bunch of simple-but-really-good-looking planes, and then deleted his account for... some reason. I don't know the details on that. Since then, people have been trying to reupload as many of his builds as possible (because they are quite good, particularly for mobile users who want realistic-looking planes but can't take high part counts), but it's been super disorganized.
I like the idea of a Spark1645 Collection account. That would make a lot more sense, and would prevent people from getting points from planes they didn't make or modify. There definitely needs to be coordination on this, at least.
Not a bad idea on the surface (pun intended), but the problem is that it would require a full, decent-resolution UV map to be done for every single part in the game, instead of the current basic materials system that the game uses.
Currently, a part (say, a prop engine) is essentially split into three or four sub-models, each of which can be colored independently. To the average player, these are known as the part's Primary, Trim 1, Trim 2, and (sometimes) Trim 3 colors. When painting a part, currently all the game has to do is specify which color slot gets applied to that section of the part.
For example, if you have a part painted with the first three colors as Primary, Trim 1, and Trim 2, all the game has to know, code-wise, for how to color that part is material=1,2,3 (along with the associated color codes that occupy those slots, which are defined elsewhere in the plane file).
Switching to a fully texture-able system would require the game to be able to store (and generate) not only the basic color data, but also much more complex data like size, position, and orientation, as well as the actual graphic being applied. That goes for every single part in the game, and for every piece of imagery or color applied to them.
Tl;dr not a bad idea on the surface, but technically infeasible given the way the game works (and likely for performance reasons as well).
The missile knows where it is at all times.
It knows this because it knows that it occupies all locations simultaneously, and therefore is always both where it is and where it isn't, as the two are indistinguishable.
The missile cannot be where it isn't, as it is present in every location at the same time.
The missile guidance system is aware of this, and by subtracting where it isn't - that is, nowhere - from where it ought to be, it calculates where it is - that is, everywhere at once.
@OPaiTaOn That's what I'm thinking as well. SR2 made sense because SR1 was/is a completely different two-dimensional game, but an SP2 would just be more-or-less the same game with some improvements (that could probably be just as easily added to the original). Now, I could see there being a big "SimplePlanes 2.0" update (not a separate game) that does stuff like expanding the map, improving the designer, etc. that people want, but I don't think a standalone SP2 makes sense.
One thing I've noticed is that it doesn't seem to activate if your primary cockpit is a flight computer, for whatever reason. I was messing around with it a while ago and the new Pigpen (which uses a flight computer) was not able to activate it, though the old one was, under the same conditions and in the same location.
I think it technically is a hull, since the International Maritime Organization classifies ekranoplans as ships rather than aircraft (kinda like a hovercraft. It's not in the water really, but it's not really capable of true flying either).
I've been there before, not much there. It's the most interesting of the random small islands that really only exist to say "hey, there's something in this direction" for those who don't already know where stuff like Maywar is.
1: yes
2: yes and probably no
3: yes and yes
4: probably yes but unknown
5: unknown (though I hope the Wasp makes an appearance because it'd be really funny to have it as stock in all three games)
6: both is good
7: brainrot tiktok words detected, opinion rejected
Hey.
I know that we're all just random people on the internet, but we care about you. We're all here for you if you need someone to talk to. Don't hesitate to reach out, whether it's to us, your parents, a counselor, or someone else. This isn't a burden you have to bear alone.
If there's anything more that I can be praying for you about (that you're comfortable with sharing, of course), please let me know.
(And for the record, don't get stressed about taking breaks from this website. This is a funny airplane building game. There are so many more important things in your life than this, and your mental health is one of them.)
Love you guys! Your games have been a surprisingly large part of my life over the years, and I'm so excited for the next installment!
(Will there be new SP2 merch?)
I appreciate the work you and your sources put in to making this such a clear and well-proven case. This kind of thing should not be allowed, and I'm surprised it's gone somewhat under the moderators' radars unnoticed up until now.
It's all for attention, which is why they will never actually leave of their own free will. Either they get so thoroughly called out that they are forced to leave in shame and make a big sob story post trying to make everyone feel bad for exiling them or whatever, and then come back a day later with a new account, or they get banned.
(Too bad this post will probably get removed in a few hours, it's genuinely an important callout but it could pretty easily be seen as breaking the policies on targeting and whatnot. Will be interesting to see how the moderators handle this.)
A lot of times I just end up flying around in circles because I can't out-maneuver the other plane. The AI won't let off and it just keeps flying around in circles.
The AI tends to prefer two-circle/Lufbery/rate fights (which, given its fairly simple aggressive programming that more-or-less amounts to "keep the nose pointed at the enemy," makes sense), so if you and the AI have similar capabilities you will probably get locked into a rate fight if you allow yourself to be.
The tricky part of a rate fight against a comparable aircraft is that it is very difficult to leave or reverse your turn without opening yourself up to attack. The AI's programming accounts for this, and it can be very difficult to disengage and try for a different attack if you don't have enough energy to stay away from the enemy's nose while reversing your turn.
The best way to avoid this is to not get into a rate fight to begin with, but you can also try to turn the situation to your advantage by moving into the vertical axis, which will cost you energy but decrease your turn radius and help you get around the circle faster.
Yeah, it was a bit borderline on the "used for historical reasons" thing. It was really funny though (and pretty obvious that you meant it in good humor and weren't trying to offend people), so don't feel bad.
@LordGardevoirX No, basically they're going to be offering a new free version of the game with optional purchases for... some reason (people who don't want to just buy the game, I guess). The existing version has been rebranded to the "Complete Edition" on the app store and will continue to be supported and all that. For anyone who has already bought the game, nothing will change.
Do not post or comment about a player who blocked you, about a specific player who blocked a friend of yours, or about a specific incident about specific people involved in blocking one another.
Probably 99.999% of the planes you see on this site are built exclusively using the in-game tools and part selection. There's a few that aren't (using the methods that @PlaneFlightX and @BeastHunter listed), but the overwhelming majority of planes are exclusively made using the in-game builder. It's not the most intuitive system, but it can be pushed really far.
@PZLAerospacesAgency
The reason that mods are no longer supported on iOS/Android is because Apple and Google have both decided to prevent "third-party" (read: player-created) code from running on their devices. Jundroo had no control over this decision, and is not responsible for the inability to support mods on iOS/Android devices. This has been the case for several years now, and is quite unlikely to change.
(Actually, I don't remember if iOS even ever supported modding in the first place.)
Okay but seriously if I didn't know that those maps existed I would be 100% convinced that this was some low-poly shooter game that someone greenscreened the SP hud over and added some sound effects.
Oh man, has it really been 10 years?
I started with SimplePhysics and shortly thereafter moved on to SimpleRockets, which I had an absolute blast with (pun fully intended). I can't say for certain, but I'm fairly confident that I first got SimplePlanes within a week or two of the original mobile release, and then basically stuck with it ever since. Haven't ventured into SR2 yet, but I recall at least trying out Aero Effect.
Happy birthday Jundroo, and here's to 10 more years!
+6What a terrible day to have an internet connection
+5All hail our new robot overlords.
+5Dream car? Second-gen Pontiac Firebird, hands down. I'm more partial to the '70-'73 (and of course the '77-'78) in terms of aesthetics, but honestly I'd go for any model year.
+5Realistically? Something that won't break on me, has a CD player instead of a touchscreen, and isn't a coupe or small sedan. (I don't have anything against them, but I am a few inches taller than average... also, cargo space is nice.) Not sure what that'll be yet, though.
Fun fact: this is one of the preset options under the Report button on a post. You don't need to make a callout forum, just report the post and wait for the mods to take care of it.
+5I mean... sure. But why would you want to?
+5To be honest though I'm against renaming it, SP2 is fine.
+5@PigeonLB No they didn't. Jundroo has stated that the game will be released IN 2025. They still have 359 days to do so. We can wait. It will be ready when it is ready.
+5@BaconEggs are you telling me a shrimp backed those tech bros
+5@Alternation @KevPlayzz Don't do that. Jundroo are good people and they deserve the money. Pirating indie games is just wrong on a bunch of different levels. Textbooks and stuff are another matter, but indie game devs put their hearts and souls into their games, so the least you can do is buy them legitimately.
+5Could be some other thing in the background, or the game just decides to crash because it does that occasionally. Save often so that you don't lose much progress.
+5It's called Funky Trees because that's the name of the programming language (yes, SimplePlanes has its own programming language, and it's Funky Trees). No idea why they picked it, but that's what it's called.
I love the story progression I got from just opening the forum:
+5"I stole a machinegun from someone who stole a machine gun from a mouse"
- GuardianAerospace|2 hours ago
"Monarchii threatened me"
- GuardianAerospace|1 hour ago
Your bio says that you are 8 years old. Is this correct?
If so, I think there's another rule you're going to hate.
Edit: I see you have since updated your bio to remove this information. Smooth.
+5Bold of you to assume that Andrew is containable
+5Celsius is a relative scale, so you can't really say any point is "twice as cold" (or "twice as hot" as any other point on the scale. 4 degrees Celsius isn't "half as hot" as 8 degrees, because Celsius "begins" (at 0 degrees) at an arbitrary point and can go in both directions, meaning that "zero" does not indicate a true zero value. You could say that 4 degrees is half as much above zero as 8 degrees, but it is not half as hot.
As a side note, this is why Kelvin exists. Kelvin is an absolute scale, meaning that it starts at zero and only progresses in one direction. If we were talking in Kelvin, 4 degrees would be half as hot as 8 degrees, because Kelvin has a defined absolute minimum value (it cannot go below zero), meaning that each step is a known and consistent distance from that actual zero point.
+5Report them to the moderators (little arrow button on the corner of the comment -> Report) and don't engage further.
Also, blocking them will prevent them from commenting on any current or future posts you make.
+5Well, lesson learned for the future: Always back up your important stuff before sending a device in for repair.
+5Hmm, let's see. We've got:
F-101/F-4 hybrid but Navy
Someone found the MiG spare parts bin and some USN decals
T-45 Goshawk except it was hit with a rubber mallet
Literally a SH-60 Seahawk with big intakes and stairs for some reason
F-14 but someone forgot half the pieces
Val/Dauntless hybrid
F-22 with Su-57 nose
F-102 if it was a NASA project from the mid-2000s
Who Gave The Russians My F-106
That plane from those "most incredible planes ever built" video thumbnails
F-104 with F-101 intakes
B-52 if it was designed to do the job of the B-1B
Upscaled twin-engine DH Vampire
F-35/F-22 hybrid
GA kitbash taildragger (with a really nice paint job, too)
Jet-powered T-28
Literally a C-17
Taildragger Cessna
P-51D with a P-47D rear fuselage shape and many other problems
P-3 fuselage with six under-wing podded turboprops... that's a vibe
B-57 if it was prop-powered and built by Douglas instead of Martin
Avro Vulcan but Borzoi
and of course
+5Weather balloon
I believe the general idea is that Spark had made a bunch of simple-but-really-good-looking planes, and then deleted his account for... some reason. I don't know the details on that. Since then, people have been trying to reupload as many of his builds as possible (because they are quite good, particularly for mobile users who want realistic-looking planes but can't take high part counts), but it's been super disorganized.
I like the idea of a Spark1645 Collection account. That would make a lot more sense, and would prevent people from getting points from planes they didn't make or modify. There definitely needs to be coordination on this, at least.
+5If you're going to make a forum post, please only make it once. Stop posting something, then deleting it and re-posting it several days later.
+5Not a bad idea on the surface (pun intended), but the problem is that it would require a full, decent-resolution UV map to be done for every single part in the game, instead of the current basic materials system that the game uses.
Currently, a part (say, a prop engine) is essentially split into three or four sub-models, each of which can be colored independently. To the average player, these are known as the part's Primary, Trim 1, Trim 2, and (sometimes) Trim 3 colors. When painting a part, currently all the game has to do is specify which color slot gets applied to that section of the part.
For example, if you have a part painted with the first three colors as Primary, Trim 1, and Trim 2, all the game has to know, code-wise, for how to color that part is
material=1,2,3(along with the associated color codes that occupy those slots, which are defined elsewhere in the plane file).Switching to a fully texture-able system would require the game to be able to store (and generate) not only the basic color data, but also much more complex data like size, position, and orientation, as well as the actual graphic being applied. That goes for every single part in the game, and for every piece of imagery or color applied to them.
Tl;dr not a bad idea on the surface, but technically infeasible given the way the game works (and likely for performance reasons as well).
+5For CAS definitely number 1. Number 2 would be great for a supersonic interceptor, but CAS aircraft are usually much slower than the speed of sound.
+5The missile knows where it is at all times.
+5It knows this because it knows that it occupies all locations simultaneously, and therefore is always both where it is and where it isn't, as the two are indistinguishable.
The missile cannot be where it isn't, as it is present in every location at the same time.
The missile guidance system is aware of this, and by subtracting where it isn't - that is, nowhere - from where it ought to be, it calculates where it is - that is, everywhere at once.
@RepublicOfCursedPlanes Here's the 1.12 patch notes from 11 months ago. If you've got the newer tire/wheel styles (Rugged, Tractor 2, Racing, etc.), you're on 1.12.
Multiplayer is still a mod only.
+5This is an excellent plane! It looks fantastic, flies great, and has pretty efficient parts usage on top of all that!
+5@OPaiTaOn That's what I'm thinking as well. SR2 made sense because SR1 was/is a completely different two-dimensional game, but an SP2 would just be more-or-less the same game with some improvements (that could probably be just as easily added to the original). Now, I could see there being a big "SimplePlanes 2.0" update (not a separate game) that does stuff like expanding the map, improving the designer, etc. that people want, but I don't think a standalone SP2 makes sense.
+5One thing I've noticed is that it doesn't seem to activate if your primary cockpit is a flight computer, for whatever reason. I was messing around with it a while ago and the new Pigpen (which uses a flight computer) was not able to activate it, though the old one was, under the same conditions and in the same location.
+5No you are not.
+5SimpleWheels was indeed made by the Jundroo team. Here's the announcement on their site.
Make sure you check the date it was posted...
+5I think it technically is a hull, since the International Maritime Organization classifies ekranoplans as ships rather than aircraft (kinda like a hovercraft. It's not in the water really, but it's not really capable of true flying either).
+5I've been there before, not much there. It's the most interesting of the random small islands that really only exist to say "hey, there's something in this direction" for those who don't already know where stuff like Maywar is.
Interestingly, they don't exist on mobile.
+5[generally confused response]
+51: yes
+42: yes and probably no
3: yes and yes
4: probably yes but unknown
5: unknown (though I hope the Wasp makes an appearance because it'd be really funny to have it as stock in all three games)
6: both is good
7: brainrot tiktok words detected, opinion rejected
I didn't realize what this was about until I went to the comments. Oh. Oh no.
+4bevel it to make him mad
+4that's the neat part
I don't
+4game fun
+410/10
Hey.
I know that we're all just random people on the internet, but we care about you. We're all here for you if you need someone to talk to. Don't hesitate to reach out, whether it's to us, your parents, a counselor, or someone else. This isn't a burden you have to bear alone.
If there's anything more that I can be praying for you about (that you're comfortable with sharing, of course), please let me know.
(And for the record, don't get stressed about taking breaks from this website. This is a funny airplane building game. There are so many more important things in your life than this, and your mental health is one of them.)
+4Love you guys! Your games have been a surprisingly large part of my life over the years, and I'm so excited for the next installment!
+4(Will there be new SP2 merch?)
I appreciate the work you and your sources put in to making this such a clear and well-proven case. This kind of thing should not be allowed, and I'm surprised it's gone somewhat under the moderators' radars unnoticed up until now.
It's all for attention, which is why they will never actually leave of their own free will. Either they get so thoroughly called out that they are forced to leave in shame and make a big sob story post trying to make everyone feel bad for exiling them or whatever, and then come back a day later with a new account, or they get banned.
(Too bad this post will probably get removed in a few hours, it's genuinely an important callout but it could pretty easily be seen as breaking the policies on targeting and whatnot. Will be interesting to see how the moderators handle this.)
+4The AI tends to prefer two-circle/Lufbery/rate fights (which, given its fairly simple aggressive programming that more-or-less amounts to "keep the nose pointed at the enemy," makes sense), so if you and the AI have similar capabilities you will probably get locked into a rate fight if you allow yourself to be.
+4The tricky part of a rate fight against a comparable aircraft is that it is very difficult to leave or reverse your turn without opening yourself up to attack. The AI's programming accounts for this, and it can be very difficult to disengage and try for a different attack if you don't have enough energy to stay away from the enemy's nose while reversing your turn.
The best way to avoid this is to not get into a rate fight to begin with, but you can also try to turn the situation to your advantage by moving into the vertical axis, which will cost you energy but decrease your turn radius and help you get around the circle faster.
Yeah, it was a bit borderline on the "used for historical reasons" thing. It was really funny though (and pretty obvious that you meant it in good humor and weren't trying to offend people), so don't feel bad.
+4@LordGardevoirX No, basically they're going to be offering a new free version of the game with optional purchases for... some reason (people who don't want to just buy the game, I guess). The existing version has been rebranded to the "Complete Edition" on the app store and will continue to be supported and all that. For anyone who has already bought the game, nothing will change.
+4As per the rules page:
Blocking players is okay
Do not post or comment about a player who blocked you, about a specific player who blocked a friend of yours, or about a specific incident about specific people involved in blocking one another.
+4Ban evasion.
+4Probably 99.999% of the planes you see on this site are built exclusively using the in-game tools and part selection. There's a few that aren't (using the methods that @PlaneFlightX and @BeastHunter listed), but the overwhelming majority of planes are exclusively made using the in-game builder. It's not the most intuitive system, but it can be pushed really far.
+4@PZLAerospacesAgency
The reason that mods are no longer supported on iOS/Android is because Apple and Google have both decided to prevent "third-party" (read: player-created) code from running on their devices. Jundroo had no control over this decision, and is not responsible for the inability to support mods on iOS/Android devices. This has been the case for several years now, and is quite unlikely to change.
(Actually, I don't remember if iOS even ever supported modding in the first place.)
+4
+4The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cellOkay but seriously if I didn't know that those maps existed I would be 100% convinced that this was some low-poly shooter game that someone greenscreened the SP hud over and added some sound effects.
In a word,
HOW
+4now Andrew can finally follow his heart and move with Kevin to Sri Lanka and train Komodo dragons to perform Hamlet
+4